As far as the phrase “He alone possesses immortality”, I don't think it means that he is the only one who has immortal life. By this, it means that he is the one through whom we gain our own immortality — he is the possessor, the one who has the keys to death and the grave. Therefore, he possesses immorality.  Else, what do we do with the…[Read more]

Quote (Casiphus @ July 28 2007,05:34)Hi A7,Quote Hi Kejonn, sure Jesus was not given to Molech, but the principle of human sacrifice is the same is it not. I dont care who the sacrifice goes to, you can't condemn something on the one hand then condone it on the other and still be considered fair and just.I think that the difference between these…[Read more]

From Against Heresies: Book IV by IrenaeusChapter I.—The Lord acknowledged but one God and Father. 1. Since, therefore, this is sure and stedfast, that no other God or Lord was announced by theSpirit, except Him who, as God, rules over all, together with His Word, and those who receive theSpirit of adoption, that is, those who believe in the one a…[Read more]

Quote (Artizan007 @ July 27 2007,07:16)Quote (Laurel @ July 10 2007,17:08)The article you posted is well known to people in the east. Even the Jewish calendar has the fourth month named Tammuz, maybe it was a memorial to Tammuz or maybe YHWH Himself put it there so the Jews wouldn't forget that they also worshipped the Sun. It is a child…[Read more]

WJ,Nevermind, I got your meaning: he vs it.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 26 2007,01:29)Hi Everyone!Sorry I am back! Looks like I have some catching up to do.Especially you t8. Dont you feel special? Kejonn!First just a short question for you!From what translation did you get “ONLY SPEAKS WHAT IT HEARS”? The NWT? Nope only JWs and CB use that translation . That was just a paraphrase to…[Read more]

Hi Ciara,You'll find that we are a scriptural bunch on here. Anything put forward about such “spiritual” matters should be backed up from passages in the Bible. But thanks for the info!LG-LP

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2007,14:20)Hi KJ, You say”No definitive proof since the Son of God was never mentioned per se in a relationship to God in the OT.”Ps2Prov302 sam?Nick,Those are “hindsight” passages. They do not really put forth a clear picture of who exactly the Son was to be. Not IMO anyway. But thanks!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2007,17:13)Hi CB, Not many here acknowledge you as a brother because you teach of three gods.You should submit to the one true God, the Father of Jesus. Why oppose Him Who holds your life in His hands?Nick,While CB and I look at things differently — he being a modalist and me not believing in the Trinity or modalism…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 24 2007,04:19)Quote Jesus told his followers the Spirit he would leave them would not speak of His own initiative but take us back to his teachings.Hi NH,I think we need to read that verse in context.John 16:12-1412″I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13″But when He, the Spirit of truth,…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ July 24 2007,16:44)Kejonn. You still have a problem.The scripture clearly states that Jehovah the Holy Spirit is speaking. Your efforts to make scripture contradict itself is a Jehovah's Witness trick.Back to the drawing board for you.CompareJer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;…[Read more]

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Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:Jos 22:22 The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if in rebellion, or if in…

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Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 24 2007,02:49)Yes. Both of these statements are scriptural.1. No one has seen the Father of Yeshua.1Jo 4:12 No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us.This verse says nothing about the Father. God with no qualifiers. How do you reconcile this with your…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 24 2007,02:43)You can't have read my opening post too thoroughly kejonn, in it I affirmed that the angel of the LORD is the LORD….Why would the Bible not say YHWH Himself then? Why even say “angel of the LORD”? Your “proof” is lacking because you have to provide evidence that an angel is YHWH. Um…are you becoming a…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 24 2007,02:38)Quote (kejonn @ July 23 2007,23:41)Yes, and you just showed more evidence that YHWH sent His Word to speak through angels. God can use anything to speak to His people, even donkeys! But the fact of the matter is, no one has seen the invisible God, the spirit form of God, God in all of His glory. He always has…[Read more]

Nick,No. YHWH came in the name of YHWH but ascended and sent YHWH.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2007,19:51)Hi KJ,Yes, the Monogenes Son begotten of God alone in the beginning.He had his own glory and this was seen on the mountain.He partook of our nature conceived in Mary.Nick,I can see all of that. It would go hand-in-hand with “emptied himself”. Do you think Wisdom and Word are the same? Many have related the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2007,18:46)Hi KJ,The Son of God had to be anointed by the Spirit of God at the Jordan so he could share in the Father's life Spirit. We follow him.Nick,I'm curious. What do you make of John 1:1-14? What I mean is, do you believe that the Logos was some entity before he was the human Yeshua? Or do you think that he was…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 23 2007,02:53)Would an agent for YHWH say this:Genesis 18:18-19″since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed? “For I have chosen him, so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing righteousness and…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 23 2007,02:53)Quote (kejonn @ July 23 2007,07:27)I read through several pages of this thread but do not have the time to read through all. I noted in the pages I read that no one tackled the Genesis 18 account of an appearance of YHWH. I wanted to take a short stab at this passage. First off, I note that Is 1:18 only used…[Read more]