CB,Did God sya “first and last” was a title, and His alone? And YHWH said “I am the first and I am the last”. If this is a title, Yeshua only said “I am the first and the last”. No second instance of “I am”.

Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 05 2007,05:13)Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Hey…[Read more]

Adam and others,I tend to shy away from dynamic translations but it seems that the NLT agrees with Adam.

1Ti 6:13 And I command you before God, who gives life to all, and before Christ Jesus, who gave a good testimony before Pontius Pilate,1Ti 6:14 that you obey his commands with all purity. Then no one can find fault with you from now until…

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Stu,Which post are you speaking of as far as religious versus atheists in prison? And did these people “find religion” in prison, or did they go in with it? There IS a difference .

Steve,Did you see his original post? I had to break it up .

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2007,16:18)You said…Quote That there is no God but one, the Father? I don’t have to explain anything since it is written in plain English (from the Greek) for us in 1 Cor 8:6. I am glad to see you admit it. Now what do you do with scriptures like John 1:1. The “was God” argument dosn’t cut it. Contextua…[Read more]

Quote I said… How could this being lay the foundations of the world if he is not God? Have you considered what these things mean and how big this Jesus is to be able to fill all things and to uphold all things by the word of “his power” and that by this being all things consist and had their origins? You said…Quote Yes, but I also know his sou…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2007,16:18)1 Cor 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: Its truly amazing how men call upon the name of Jesus when they get saved, then suddenly…[Read more]

Quote The logic of Yeshua being in us is not the same as us being in God. We do not “dwell” in each other. Jesus dwells in every believer. So your response is fallacious! There is no such scripture that says Yeshua must be God, for there is no need for one since scriptures say Jesus is God! I never said we dwell in each other. My response does not…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2007,16:18)30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. So the Monogenes “Unique” Son of God was mor…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2007,16:18)And speaking of pronouns… Jn 20:28 1. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. 2. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. I know these verses are hard for anti-Trinitarians to accept. J…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2007,16:18)Kejonn Well since most scholars agree that it was John that wrote both verses, why not add a couple more… 1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God a…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 03 2007,18:47)Hi kejonn++”Are you trying to say inorganic substances are subject to evolutionary processes? Did I?++”Cop out.I'm sorry, what is a cop out?When the cop says “out” on the radio .Quote ++”All I can do is relate my experiences. What experience have you had that gives you unshakeable knowledge of the existence of…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 02 2007,03:01)Hi kejonn++”Think about something so simple yet complex as water. We know that almost all forms of matter, at least those that are liquid or solid, contract when frozen. Yet water expands. Why is that? Well, what would happen if water contracted when frozen? Aquatic life would cease. At least most organisms. I…[Read more]

ACC,When all else fails, use a dynamic translation to get the theme of verses, and then return to literal translations to really study. Here's the passage from the NLT, with v15 thrown in for context

Pro 5:15 Drink water from your own well-share your love only with your wife.Pro 5:16 Why spill the water of your springs in public, having sex…

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WJ,What are you doing? This is you birthday, go out an celebrate. Instead you drop this big post on me to answer . I'l be back.

Hey IS,I checked several sources and none of the writings I cite are listed in the spurious works. All of the writings I have (I made one large pdf of them) come from Yonge's translations.As far as the Philo's Logos not being divine, that is matter of the age old “God” opinion (like “My Lord and My God”). Philo does call the Logos a deity but also…[Read more]

IS, Thanks for the links. I will check them out and if I see any on the list I will do my best to make corrections to the posts I've made already.I'm not strongly supporting that John was influenced by Philo, because I think it is entirely possible that similar divine inspiration could be given to more than one writer. If God inspired Philo (and…[Read more]

Did we ever see “God the Father” until the New Testament? Well, it appears that Philo and perhaps some of his contempories used the term before the NT was ever authored. And this was by a Jew who did not know Yeshua!I will not list links or titles but the quotes are pulled from many of Philo's 40+ writings.

(74) Now it was a very appropriate task…

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Well, I may have stumbled upon another source of JWs believing that Yeshua is an archangel. From ON THE CONFUSION OF TONGUES

(146) And even if there be not as yet any one who is worthy to be called a son of God, nevertheless let him labour earnestly to be adorned according to his first-born word, the eldest of his angels, as the great archangel of…

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