Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,13:07)Hi KJ, Why quote Paul if to you his words are under suspicion?You have to rest faith somewhere outside yourself.To trust the Word is to trust the God who wrote it through menNick,You tried this same ploy with Tow. It will not work with me either so don't bother.

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 22 2008,12:52)Tim, maybe you're right.  Maybe you're wrong?I see a lot of “just” acts in the OT and in the NT.  There seems to be strict code of faith that is required OR you are punished in some way.  Jesus also told us that this is true.  I think he knew it for himself as well and that is why he countered Satan with scr…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,11:32)Hi KJ, When the gnostic influence got busy.However I protest at your attack on the inspiration of Scripture. I believe God is trustworthy and capable and protects what He has given us as truth through His servants.To not trust God in this matter is rather to trust our own judgement.Ps 12 6The words of the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 22 2008,11:39)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 23 2008,00:17)I can't quite agree Mandy, not in the way you put it. I don't think you need to turn over your intellect to have a belief in God. That's selling people short. I do believe, however, that you have to turn over your intellect in fully believing that one particular religion is the…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 22 2008,10:10)Why I am a Christian,I was not raised with hardly any knowledge of God except being taught to be moral. As I entered adulthood I became entangled with many “sins” including drugs to which I became hopelessly addicted. One day my brother-in-law got “saved” and hounded me about going to church. Although I was…[Read more]

Since all we know of Paul comes from the NT, and we know little of his life, who can say? I do not claim to be wiser than Paul but when you elevate any man on a pedestal, you lower God a notch (im man's eyes, not in reality) too.To tell you the truth, I agree with Paul personally. Although I would not sacrifice to idols or be associated with such…[Read more]

I can't quite agree Mandy, not in the way you put it. I don't think you need to turn over your intellect to have a belief in God. That's selling people short. I do believe, however, that you have to turn over your intellect in fully believing that one particular religion is the only way.

Quote (david @ Jan. 21 2008,23:47)Quote To the people of Jesus' day, Paul was mixing some elements with paganism in with the message of Judaism. –kejonnI've heard you say this before. What were the “elements with paganism”?1Co 8:4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in…[Read more]

Nick, if the same God inspired the OT and NT (I believe He did), and continues to inspire people, when did Jesus become God?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,13:44)Hi KJ, Do you have doubts now about the gospels and NT writings too?NT, OT, all religious writings. I don't doubt the God who inspired them, nor do I believe that the writers purposely said things they did not believe were true. The writers were just products of their time and surroundings.Christianity has…[Read more]

Tim,That's why the bible we have today stinks of church revision. It was the Catholic church who first said that salvation was only through them so it is a natural extension to insert that same ideology into the teachings of Paul and Jesus in John (note that this theme is not found in the synoptics unless you count the later added ending of Mark).…[Read more]

I don't think harassing someone back to Jesus is a good approach, personally. Not even the Baptists will be using it as their evangelism program of the month .

No, but I have encountered other writings with no bloodshed and eternal damnation. But I suppose they are wrong because they are not included in the Catholic or Protestant canon of scripture.

Nick, can you show me where anyone in the bible says that the the bible is inerrant?

Only God knows for certain. There are many schools of thought pertaining to several areas, and it really depends where you fall in those. I used to believe in inerrency and infallibility, but such lead me to stifled growth and a load of unanswered questions. Then God showed me that the people who wrote the bible were human, just like me. Since I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,20:43)Hi KJ, Then build on sand. If he is a liar then nothing he said is relevant.You're odd Nick. You think that people either tell the truth or they lie. It is not that simple. OK Nick, let's play your game. Since you have been shown to be wrong from time to time, each time you must have been lying. Since you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,20:37)Hi KJ, I do not care how you regard me but you give offense to God when you judge his servants such as Paul.That's hogwash too Nick. In fact, I think God understands we will know that these people are people and not God. Or are you saying Paul is perfect?

That's hogwash Nick. You're everything or nothing attitude leaves no room for growth. You say either Paul must be all right or all wrong. I simply say Paul was all human, and that with his humanity came his own failings. Maybe his thorn was that he held on to pagan things he had learned and wanted to incorporate them into the his teachings? We…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,19:56)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 22 2008,12:53)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,18:57)Hi KJ, Make up your mind. Either Paul was a messenger of God's or a liar.I think God makes it pretty plain he was serving Him and not Satan.But to the rebellious Jews Christ and Paul are stumbling stones.ORPaul was doing the best he…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,19:46)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 22 2008,11:41)Nick,Not so. Paul was teaching things totally foreign to them. It had nothing to do with hating God but not liking it when someone taught that the Torah was unnecessary. Observant Jews love the Torah and see it as a way to honor God.You seem to be of the mindset that…[Read more]