That was really good Kat, well written.

How on earth Ed can you use the Quran to prove the bible?You cant!

Hi, Adam.The search for truth haha yeah I know about that.Let no man be your leader in truth only one the Almighty. From what iv learnt, reading things to search for the truth (apart from the Bible and perhaps a few other writtings eg Enoch, Hermas,) nothing is safe to read, anything can contaminate our mind lead us away from what truth we first…[Read more]

Hi Adam. Yeah iv been here about a year I think. I just dont read all the threads sorry.So your maybe going down the path of Ebionite or Nazerene? Prehaps? (iv been there, a while ago..a few times)..

Hi Nick, I was thinking about this and I think that if someone was Baptised then went away they would be like the prodigal son, lost, but then welcomed back and so long as they stay on track they would be ok. So no re-baptism would be needed because they are already a child of God, only they were lost for a while (I hope that makes sense). Thankyou.

Hi Gm, I dont remember ever speaking to you before, iv only just started reading this conversation so please forgive me if I know nothing, but firstly What do you believe? Who do you think Jesus was/is? Who do you think the Holy Spirit is? So that I can see where your coming from.

ok thanks Dennison haha. Cool.

Ha Nicks got it right, Rev 1:20 “As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

The Quran denies THE SON the Holy Spirit who was in Jesus

Bod stop asking questions like that read what I said PROPERLY Im serious, Ed No I disagree with you too. But I seriously again need to go.

Other post was for bod.

Ed, the Word was the Son. (love to stay and debate that one but I have to go only had a few minutes)

Jesus is mentioned in the Quran but only as a way of denying the Sonship therefore denying the Holy Spirit in him (The Words he spoke)..the Son.”For I spake not from myself; but the Father which sent me, he hath given me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.” John 12;49Matthew 12:30-32:(And Luke, Mark) ” Anyone who speaks a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2010,13:07)Hi MB, Now the Lord is the Spirit. The Spirit createsThe sonship that we can follow began at the JordanHi Nick.So what if your baptised at a younger age (say 14) then become lost and sin (not badly just things like anger worldliness), then return to God, age 30 say, what is your opinion, do you think the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 04 2010,05:53) How many times is he mentioned by name? Please write the number. Jesus by name? Zero… but the Holy Spirit being identified as the Son of God more than once.Quote By the way if someone was to read the Sheppard of Hermas and not have read the Bible would they know it was referring to Jesus? Yes or No?They…[Read more]

Rokkaman, Dennison, I wasnt agreeing with all of (that) post a few pages back, only the last part about beliefs I need to read posts properly before agreeing sorry!

Hi Ja, born or begotten.. iv been reading Sheppard of Hermas iv also read Enoch. So what iv been seeing lately is this…The son of God is the Holy Spirit who always existed with God and through the son of God (Holy Spirit) all things were made.So Jesus was a perfect Man who at Baptism the Son of God (Holy Spirit) descended down on him, from then…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 03 2010,15:51)Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,12:20)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 03 2010,12:35)Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,10:30)haha bod I do not. Did you read the part of the Sheppard of Hermas?If you did then do you understand what it said about the son of God? Who was jesus?You will believe any book except the Quran,…[Read more]

Hi Ed. I havent got to that part yet.But according to Sheppard of Hermas, theres the Holy Spirit who always existed with God known as the Son of God, then at Baptism the Son (holy Spirit) descended onto Jesus, The Words Jesus spoke would have been the Holy Spirit (son). Jesus at death became the first born from the dead. The other Son of God.…[Read more]

Or a type of Adoptionismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism