You all should be banned off this site.What you all show here is not Christian.You do not know forgiveness and you laugh and belittle people when they are trying.Dont worry Istari. Just walk away, shake the dust,

Thanks Bod. You too.I'll write more later, when I think of something to ask.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,12:32)Karmarie,Do you deny the deity of Christ?Kathi, I don't deny the diety of Christ. But there is one God and Lord, our Heavenly Father, who is worshipped and loved with all our heart and mind and soul and spirit, and one Lord Jesus Christ.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,08:46)Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,00:42)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2011,19:06)The Jews have scriptures and are blind, btw.The Jews are NOT all blind, that is only in PART.The first converts WERE JEWS.Part of the reason that they are blind is because they are taught MONOTHEISM.So they see the Gentiles all…[Read more]

TK, I do see your point.Can I ask you, how do you see the world?….Do you feel tearfull whenever you see war and killing, natural disaster, etc?

Hi wispring.I also heard it was a JW doctrine.Istari and I think Irene also believe this.I started this topic, before I heard what they said (they HAD said it before, but I wasnt really listening).So, now that I agree with them, I lost interest in this thread As it goes.So I leave it open to anyone to discuss between yourselves, Im sort of giving…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2011,19:06)The Jews have scriptures and are blind, btw.The Jews are NOT all blind, that is only in PART.The first converts WERE JEWS.Part of the reason that they are blind is because they are taught MONOTHEISM.So they see the Gentiles all worshipping ANOTHER God.And it goes against what they believe.Jesus was the…[Read more]

Bod, I believe that submission to God is important, and something that can be learnt off Muslims, as I did, and still do.

Sorry about all the posts. Ok, ill be quiet:)

I think all of these were really good points. Thankyou Istari. I just had a good read!!Quote But REMEMBER please please please… Revelation is SYMBOLIC.Please don't read the symbolism as direct translation to human understanding…You need the right KEYS to each symbolic reference.Some may be easy but you can bet many others will be…[Read more]

And what I saw, obviously was just shown to me in a way I could understand and see. (otherwise I wouldnt get it)It was showing me I think that Jesus isnt happy with what is going on down here.

Just as Istari saidQuote God does not SIT on a physical throne in heaven.Jesus does not physically SIT next to GodThe elders and Seraphims and Cherubims don't STAND in front of the throne.These are all symbolisms for giving a HUMAN PHYSICAL FLESH VIEW of THE IMMATERIAL REALM.

Irene,Quote Jesus is seated at the right hand of Almighty God.  How can they sit, and how can they be different without some kind of form, to be able to recognize each other…Irene, I dont believe thats a literal throne that Jesus sits on. I think its a description of where Jesus is in power, what authority has been given to him.When I saw Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 25 2011,03:46)Hi Kar,Sorry, I'm not getting it. Can you let me know what you think the link is.Can you let me know what your mother says as well. So far no one has commented on the points I raised – seems they fear saying what they know to be true (They have no problem commenting when they think I'm wrong – sad, so sad! I…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 25 2011,06:47)1Cr 15:51   Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,   1Cr 15:52   In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  The meek will inherit the earth, it says tha…[Read more]

Thanks for that TK.I have heard it said, that 144000 go to Heaven, and that is what Jesus was speaking about.And that the rest will be, if they are lucky, in Paradise Earth.I was wondering what anyone else thought of this, and with what scriptures they have to back it up.

OK. Thanks for that Bod.So are you still a Muslim? Do you still believe that Christians and Muslims believe the same thing?(Title of the thread).

Good to see you back Mikeangel!I cant say anything to your post right now though, I have to go. Hope your well.

Amen wispring, God IS love, that is what God is, and what God always will be.Good message.

Oh, I see, no link at all, ok, thanks. I was just wondering.Stars though are used as signs, but thats another subject. Nite.