Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,01:49)Karmarie…………You have it right, anyone who does not believe Jesus came into existence as a flesh being is Antichrist this is the Spirit that separates Jesus from our own personal identity , it is the spirit of both the trinitarians and preexistences as well as that of the Gnostic's. It all serves to…[Read more]

Regarding the title of this thread,From what I remember the Early Church followed the Saterday Sabbath, but also had Sunday. One example;St. Justin MartyrThe First Apology Chapter 67. Weekly worship of the Christianshttp://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htmAnd we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us…[Read more]

Hi TK. YHVH is God. (Translated as LORD or Yahwey or Jehovah) He is the Father of Jesus. Do you believe this ? Do you read the Old Testament ?Also the law was not done away with. The law remains. It is not to sin and to obey GodObeying God is an act of Love. Because when you love someone you want to obey them.Jesus say's to people “Get away from…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 11 2010,14:25)Hi Karmarie,I don't read imported opinions, because it takes a person to reason with! (Isaiah 1:18)Jesus came back with his Father (HolySpirit) in Spiritform to indwell with us starting on “Pentecost”! (Click Here)(John 14:23 / Heb.9:27 / Matt.26:64 / Mark 13:26 / Matt.24:30) Witnessing to the world in behalf of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2010,13:52)Quote (Shimmer @ 7)So it seems anyone who says Jesus is not still in the flesh is a deceiver according to the Bible.  That is not at all what those scriptures are saying Shimmer.  They are addressed towards those who claim the Messiah had not come at all.  They say nothing about Jesus STILL being flesh, on…[Read more]

Hi Kathi I'm really sorry I just have been distracted with other thing's. Good luck with the puppy Kathi. I'm using my old username because I wanted edit rights again. OK so wait and I will try to find something. If I do I will put it here. I never found anything about the Holy Spirit in 'Mathetes'.

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2010,00:53)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 12 2010,04:43)Ed: I am not confused with YHVH! I pay no attention to YHVH!  I follow Jesus and what he says. The God Jesus refers to is “theos” which means supreme divinity. YHVH was, Theos is!  Jesus' God is “Theos” and so is mine!!  TKTKwell saidPierreTerrarica….are you feeling al…[Read more]

Yes but Mike, with following man………there was Jesus and there were the Disciples and there were others after them………Bishops and so on. So people still need to learn off others sometimes I think.And all of you ……….someone said light and darkness ? Do you not all believe ? I think you just have to agree to disagree on some things.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2010,13:51)Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 11 2010,17:45)Well it's ok Jay just believe whatever we believe and leave them to it. None of it has anything to do with faith does it ? See everyone sees it different. Here we have a few people who agree and a few who don't, and then is all of the branches of Christianity out there who…[Read more]

Jesus is now in a NEW type of body, though it is the same body He had on earth. It is glorified, changed, and all who follow will also be changed as Paul said. It's not the same body as we have here, you do not understand it. It is the same but it's different. It's a spiritual body.

Well it's ok Jay just believe whatever we believe and leave them to it. None of it has anything to do with faith does it ? See everyone sees it different. Here we have a few people who agree and a few who don't, and then is all of the branches of Christianity out there who have their opinion too. (How many agree with you ? More than half I'm…[Read more]

Terrarica did you read the site I gave ? What you are all saying is what JWs say. Please just read it.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2010,13:02)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 11 2010,04:26)If Jesus went to Heaven, and we know He did, then He is not flesh and blood.  Scriptures tell us so…..Jesus appeared to Maria Magdalene, and She thought He was the Gardner.  To show certain people like Thomas, Jesus appeared as a human being, however that is not how He w…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 11 2010,11:08)To All,After all that has been said in this thread concerning 'Do Spirits have bodies' it would appear that some poster, three in particular, have been deliberately…or deliberately mistakenly,…or genuinely mistakenly… making a claim that the Apostle Paul, writing in 1 Corinthian 15, is stating that…[Read more]

mispost again sorry.

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 11 2010,00:47)Hey Girl,Thanks. You were my first friend on here, and i have enjoyed your fellowship very much. I wish you the very best. I will come on from time to time but I have to get out of most of it. About being catholic, I really wish they took what I wrote them to heart. I know there is much more wrong then that,…[Read more]

But Kerwin, I heard through some JWs that demons can pretend to be the dead too. That could be true.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2010,00:23)To all,If you are sincerely addressing the point of whether spirits have bodies then you must address the phantasm of Samuel summoned by the Witch of Endor.  A ghost is a spirit after all and the Witch was able to describe the spirit she saw.  She was disobeying the law that banned the summoning of spirits, D…[Read more]

All, This was written by Irenaeus from the earliest church aprox 130 AD I think. PLEASE READ IT.http://www.biblestudytools.com/history….ii.html Chapter XXVIII.-Perfect Knowledge Cannot Be Attained in the Present Life: Many Questions Must Be Submissively Left in the Hands of God. 1. Having therefore the truth itself as our rule and the testimony…[Read more]

OK sorry now I'm using my old username, I logged in with the wrong one. (Habit.