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    k4c replied to the topic I John 5:7 in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (epistemaniac @ July 05 2005,17:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2005,10:11)Hi E, The God that was with God is not that God he was with.Now please also can you be consistent. You say the Word was fully God so you say there are two deities. So are there two deities in one God now or two Gods? I thought you say they are two persons in one God…[Read more]

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    There is coming a time when Jesus returns with all His angelic host. Matthew 25:31-32 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,20:58)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,20:43)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 13 2005,20:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,15:01)Hi k4c,So strange that Michael appears by name so infrequently in the bible but some see him everywhere.Good point.Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 13 2005,20:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,15:01)Hi k4c,So strange that Michael appears by name so infrequently in the bible but some see him everywhere.Good point.Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,19:21)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,14:41)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,11:13)Hi k4c, So the Word or Logos, the thoughts and words and will of God, were WITH God. You say then that Jesus had his own thoughts and words and will as well as the Father still having His own thoughts and words and will. Does that not…[Read more]

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 13 2005,16:42)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,04:53)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 13 2005,02:34)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 12 2005,19:31)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,19:16)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 12 2005,14:04)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,14:51)K4C,I'm still waiting for my scripture that says Jesus is Michael. I hope you're not waiting for a new bible…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,11:13)Hi k4c, So the Word or Logos, the thoughts and words and will of God, were WITH God. You say then that Jesus had his own thoughts and words and will as well as the Father still having His own thoughts and words and will. Does that not sound a little strange to you? Does God still have His own thoughts and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,02:06)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,00:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,00:40)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,00:26)Quote (Bastian @ Dec. 12 2005,20:55)Hi Nick and All,In Daniel Michael is one of the chief princes. That means that there are others like him, he is not unique. He is the prince over Israel that is what…[Read more]

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 13 2005,02:34)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 12 2005,19:31)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,19:16)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 12 2005,14:04)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,14:51)K4C,I'm still waiting for my scripture that says Jesus is Michael. I hope you're not waiting for a new bible translation to come out with the verse in it (joke).Do you believe…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,00:40)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,00:26)Quote (Bastian @ Dec. 12 2005,20:55)Hi Nick and All,In Daniel Michael is one of the chief princes. That means that there are others like him, he is not unique. He is the prince over Israel that is what sets him apart. He contended with the devil over the body of Moses. I find…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2005,00:40)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 13 2005,00:26)Quote (Bastian @ Dec. 12 2005,20:55)Hi Nick and All,In Daniel Michael is one of the chief princes. That means that there are others like him, he is not unique. He is the prince over Israel that is what sets him apart. He contended with the devil over the body of Moses. I find…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2005,19:30)Do you believe Jesus preexisted?If so, how?Hi k4c, What do you mean?Do you mean that existence only begins at physical birth?If so you say God does not exist.I don't think my question was too hard. Maybe if I ask it slower.Do you believe Jesus preexisted?

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,19:16)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 12 2005,14:04)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,14:51)K4C,I'm still waiting for my scripture that says Jesus is Michael. I hope you're not waiting for a new bible translation to come out with the verse in it (joke).Do you believe Jesus preexisted?If so, how?I'm still waiting for my scripture. If what…[Read more]

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    Quote (Bastian @ Dec. 12 2005,20:55)Hi Nick and All,In Daniel Michael is one of the chief princes. That means that there are others like him, he is not unique. He is the prince over Israel that is what sets him apart. He contended with the devil over the body of Moses. I find it odd when Michael became a flesh being made a little lower then the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,14:51)K4C,I'm still waiting for my scripture that says Jesus is Michael. I hope you're not waiting for a new bible translation to come out with the verse in it (joke).Do you believe Jesus preexisted?If so, how?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2005,17:37)Hi k4c, We often hear in these forums your plaintive cry that “if you were of God you would accept what I say”. Everyone thinks they are right.We have weighed your words and found them of man, not God. You are speaking with the voice of a strangerYou have gone beyond the teaching of ChristYour teachings do…[Read more]

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    Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 12 2005,02:30)Quote (k4c @ Dec. 11 2005,13:31)Don't say His name is Jesus because the name Jesus was given to Him by His earthy family.Matthew 1:20-21 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife,…[Read more]

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    A big part of salvation is the the setting free by way of truth. John 8:32 “And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.'' Has God reveals truth He is watching for the acceptance of it by the person. If there is true repentance in a person God will reveal more truth to the person. This is how God draws His people out of the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2005,19:12)Hi k4c, The angel of the Lord is only identified as “the angel of the Lord”To go beyond this is to enter the fascinating but useless world of speculation.This is where you fall short…I'll give you another clue.Judges 13:18 And the Angel of the Lord said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is…[Read more]

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    Don't say His name is Jesus because the name Jesus was given to Him by His earthy family.Matthew 1:20-21 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. “And she…[Read more]

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