ok,I'm just shocked pink that someone has actually agreed with me – i'm just so used to saying that everyone is wrong.

We three things disoriented are?Instead of agreeing we stand way off, far.something something somethingSomething something something…I can't remember the rest, har har!

Mike,'What you think about preExisting' not pointed at JustAskin, I hope!Ok about Paul/John (sos' for that – it is 2:17 am in UK – i'm off work and been sleeping most of the day…)The “Form of God” part is crucial to the understanding and I have asked this a number of time only to find pointless, frivolous, misunderstood posts passed back.There…[Read more]

Bod,Struggle on.I can make an aquarium very easily. I can plant freshwater plants, oxygenating plants, lay down sand, add little frilly things like rock caverns, pool lights, water heaters, dark areas, light areas, sectioned of areas for spawning, etc, and it will be good. I can introduce different types of fish: Guppies, Neon Tetras, Cat Fish,…[Read more]

Mike,As far as I see it “Form” simply means “Spirit”.Jesus was as a “Spirit Being” like God is a Spirit Being.If it was anything more complicated then John was in the wrong for not explaining it.Also, look for the qualifier: Where else is it stated that Jesus was “In the Form of God”?Also, if Jesus was “AS GOD”, emptied himself and came as man,…[Read more]

Barley,Is “The Word” a “He” or an “IT”.Is the Word personified, is God's Spoken Word personified. Or was God's Spoken word “IT” a articled name for He-Whom-Was-Born-As-Jesus?Jesus-to-be carried out the word of God perfectly and as such can rightly be called “The Word”. God spoke and He Did that Word.Can you tell me that this is not also a human…[Read more]

Bod,Your last statement, at least, is false.It was not FLESH that God called “Very Good” but the whole of what man was: a physical living self sustaining entity with a spirit.This was a great achievement. Prior there had only been Spirit Creatures who were locked into the word of God, like a programmed computer, or robot. Now, a selfwilled…[Read more]

Mike,First DEFINE your understanding of what “the FORM OF GOD” is.This is the crux of the matter for some.Some have substituted “Nature” for “Form”. Are you allowing this?

DavidBFun,The Holy Spirit is NOT doing it's OWN work. It is doing what God's indwelling word tells it to do.Adrenalin is pumped into the body when their is a fear factor or requirement for a burst of energy. Is the Pituitary gland operating “Of it's own”, then?The Holy Spirit “Searches” and knows the inner thoughts of God – Because it is Part of…[Read more]

To All,Please see that KarMarie has spoken well in the Spirit.

Barley,PM me if this is better for you.

Barley,Well said in the last line of your last post.But this applies to you too, my man.You speak well, but why do you adopt the “Jesus did not preExist” stance if you understand Scriptures.Can you show me how you came to be a disbeliever – I am interested in your stance outside of this aspect and would love to see you come across to the truth.

Irene,What is it about your post that you wish to have challenged.Are you so frightened of the fact that you said something of truth – Next time try doing what you normally do then and speak false, if you really require others to challenge you.Irene, Seriously,Be prepared to speak the truth and be ignore – Satan knows many trick – and of you…[Read more]

“Disaffected Spirit”. A term that springs to mind.

LU,Born again and Adopted…What do you think happened to Jesus when he was “Born Again from the Dead” and “Begotten” by God.Born again in the Spirit after his death in the Flesh.Begotten of God as a “True Spirit Son”.

So much has been written, so much must be written, so much more will be written.Yet, few will understand.To be 'born again' is actually quite easily understood if one thinks 'in the Spirit'.Virtually all the times that Jesus spoke of the Kingdom of Heaven, and all things concerning his Father and life after death, he was speaking of a 'Spirit…[Read more]

Are there any genuine scholars here who can do the 'word for word' expansion of Jude 4?It seems wierd to me that Jude should be suggesting that Jesus is 'Sovereign Lord' when he walked with Christ and heard his words firsthand.My Bible has separate laudings, one for Jesus and one for God:”…who turn the grace of God into lewdness and deny the…[Read more]

Davidbfun,All over the forum, you seem to have only one theme: God as Male and Female.Do you have another dimension that you can bring to the forum?

Davidbfun,It may not be that no one wanted to answer. Sometimes someone may raise a thread but it gets overlooked because there is a fast moving number of other threads in action at that time.It is then up or down to the thread owner to, again, bring it back to the fore, which Arnold clearly did not do.In addition, the tooic has been done over…[Read more]

And Jack,Where does it say any of the things you says it says.Where is it said that the daughters of men were 'Cain's daughters and that the 'Sons of God' were 'Seth's Sons'.Jack, you not very clever, are you?And WJ, why follow a 'not clever at all person'?