To all those who think that a Spirit has a body.Time for definition…What are you saying that 'a body' is?Please just post your definition, not 'proof'…what do you say 'Spiritual body' is?Note, 'Spiritual' as opposed to 'Flesh'.This, so we all understand each other and are batting off the same wicket?

Terra, you have become like a stone.Why do you think things are called 'Spirit', like Alcohol, like Marsh gas, like the Wind…what body does the Holy Spirit have…?Spirits are able to go where they will precisely because they do not have bodies…they are 'all invasive'.When they want to be seen they materialise physical bodies, from dust…or…[Read more]

Irene,Please expand on what you mean by 'Jesus created all through the power of God'God spoke a word, 'let there be light', then Jesus did what?God said, 'Let the earth be formed like a ball…ha ha… what is a ball? And Jesus did what?And the Angels? How were the Angels created…they are not elemental, they are Spirit…Where did Jesus obtain…[Read more]

Irene,God uses ones negativity to expose another's deceit.Yes, the Scriptures says, in simplistic view, that God created all things through Jesus.I am not disputing that, per se.I already said that the senior son inherits ALL, therefore, God affords Jesus the luxury and Glory of ALL that is his…and the creation of the ALL is God's work.But,…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer,I only posted this for 'Thomas Mike'. I wrote this all before but no one understands. They don't even begin to understand what being in Spirit is otherwise this thread would not have come about.Mike struggles to see past the flesh and that is why he cannot understand the three different versions of 'Son of God' and why he thinks that…[Read more]

Shimmer,Debate with people who are 'Honest'… A dishonest debator will not give way and will stoop to ever level of deciet to deny losing face.Mike's twisting words here show exactly this situation, hence, like the same with WJ when he also realised he was losing, Mike starts different arguments to muddy the waters.I do not play such games and…[Read more]

All,Spirit does not have a Body but it does have a Form.To see this you need to think in the spirit, not as flesh. Flesh is body to retain its shape, or form…because it has a shape made of chemical elements it cannot move through other elements that may react adversely.A wall of bricks does not allow flesh to pass through as the brick elements…[Read more]

Ok, guys, here is a show stopper..No, Jesus was not always superior because at one point he was 'made lower than the Angels' and even under the rule of Satan and subject to Sin.He triumphed over his lowly state and was raised to a position higher than the Angels….So, there it is…You may now continue…if the thread title question is not…[Read more]

Mike,You going off on a tangent…Romans 1, irrespective…i wrote from memory, someone has already pointed out the error in the quote.Yes, and they too tried to claim that the 'with power' somehow makes such a difference that it refutes all i said.Not so, the point is, it states clearly, the time at which God DeCLARED his TRUE SON, the true…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer, i'm loving your posts so much…Yes, and I'm not sure what Mike is gargling at, but you rightly say, 'A Son of God'.From the mouth of the innocent…

Shimmer, yes….Mike has been modifying his claim each time i answer him.Ha! I wanted to say that but would not unless another intervened…thank you, Shimmer.Check what Mike is saying:1) Through Jesus, all the Angels were created. And these are Rulers (or Principalities), Powers, Authorities, thrones, things visisble or invisible in…[Read more]

Ummm, Irene, i could just ignore your post..should i just?Ok, i'm fascinated…what are you saying in response to my post…supporting or refuting…and what exactly?

Romans 1: 3-4 states that Jesusnwas declared Son of God when he was raised from the dead, as is easily discernible from the three verses in various scripture books which state, 'You are my Son, today, I have begotten you'.The question to ask here is: 'Why…'Why did God say this of Jesus? Why the declaration?…obvious…because Jesus had overcome…[Read more]

Does the wind have a body?Does the wind have a form?Both questions are quite noddyThink very hard…yes, you getting warm.The wind is like Spirit'It blows where it wills'The Scriptures doth say it.Ethereal force or a body it fills.The form of the wind, what doth this mean?What other than 'Essence', a thing not seen.even toward 'manner' or 'mode'…[Read more]

ST,I have written many times but these deludeds just want to post what they want to post irrespective of what is actuall being said.It seems, therefore, that their intention is just to cause contention by their own invention of what's in my presentation.I clearly state,,,listed out, expanded with Sriptural support, that Jesus was MAN, son of God,…[Read more]

Mike,Your twisted mind i will not deal with.The debate is over,…has been like i said 'one page'. These filler posts do nothing to further your deluded u understanding…So 'see ya, glad i'm not ya'

Shimmer, if i could say something to you here, i would but i will say 'thank you' instead.Yes, i was angry just now and you rightly dissuade me with soft words as Scriptures says to do.You deserve the sure blessings and mercies of Christ.God Bless you.

Tim Kraft,By way of impartiality, if you have a personal problem with anyone in this forum by way of 'real or perceived abuse' then please contact a Moderator.You should not be making your own revenge. Revenge leads to addition revenge as response…

Show Mikeboll Romans 1:3-4, where it clearly states that Jesus, Son of God, born of the seed of David in the flesh, and DECLARED to be the Son of God with power by the spirit of holiness by theresurrection from the dead.They it is…plain, simple, clear…The Declaration…and raised in power, and …additionally, appounted High Priest, as stated…[Read more]

Mikeboll has fallen to the deoth of desperation so much that he cannot see anything except 'Mikeboll' in front of him.He has fallen prey to the spirit of delusion.Present him with any kind of truth and he will refute it….see he will even refute this claim concerning him….watch and see that he does…