One of the major problems seems to be that people will read something and extract those bits that they WANT to say what they WANT to think:Quote Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and…[Read more]

LU,Quote Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and…[Read more]

To All,Can you all submit your own definition of WORSHIP. Perhaps, we are debating using differing ideas of what we mean by Worship.My definition is: – An Act, in Word, thought or deed, of ultimate Reverence towards another person or object, viewing that person or object as God – To effectively, offer up one's spirit or other revered items, as…[Read more]

katjo, What you just said is exactly the sort of thing that satan would like people to say.Think, how was it that Satan came to sin – was it not because he desired Worship from Man … because he had done wonderful work helping in God's creation?Satan wants us to worship Jesus so he can say: “See, He is being worshipped and you even endorse it…[Read more]

EDJ,Help from the True God.Petition Christ in earnest and he give you the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will guide you under Christ's direction.

TT,At last we agree – but is there more?Peace.

TT,Jesus will be all in all when he reconciles man to himself and God.At present there are many he is NOT in and who are not in him and he will bring the winnowing shovel or cut of the branch of their vine (or whichever of the many analogies)Jesus is All in all – But not Above All – that is He is not above God but all else.Did you see my diagram?

Did you really think we wanted to know your parentage? Or the Composition of Christ?Can you hear god? “Take a little bit of this and a little bit if that, Mix it it a bowl with smattering of fat.Heat it very slowly let the best bit rise highest,The part on the bottom I'll call Man and the other I'll call Christ!”

EdJ,You totally failed to realise why I asked if you were Greek , or chose to ignore it, cos you went on to do exactly what a anvient Greek would do – Try to prove God using formulas and mathematical equations.

TT,In your post you had simply wuoted scripture verses. Nothing to dispute.My last remark was that you made and argument from nothing. I agree that the son glorifies the father – where in any posts, have I said otherwise?There was nothing in your post that pointed to anything negative or incorrect on my part – thats what made me say 'well said'.…[Read more]

To all, my 'well said…' was in response to TT's previous post to me.

Well said, TT, I knew you had it in you.There is no disputing what you have said in this last post (did you want me to?)Just what was your point, again?Jesus is in God, God is in Jesus – noone disputing that.God has given his son his Holy Spirit (kinda like Abdicated – like when an ancient King gave his Seal to a one of Trusted authority. Anything…[Read more]

EdJ,Influenced Will is not a point of debate here.As for the theory that you have it can be counted amongst those of the foolish and the ignorant!You have 'invented' a whole new Cult and written your own Bible to read what you believe.I asked, who else believes your halfman-god, holy spirit is the Word becomes flesh in Jesus and is his father?EDJ,…[Read more]

WJ,Response to my questions: I'm excited already – Please make it worthwhile!

Terra, my friend,No, I do not know but is it One?But to what are you refering?

ED J,”Holy Spirit IS God”, you say? The Holy Spirit is the Spirit OF God : Hence “The Spirit of God”God has a Spirit – it is the only HOLY SpiritJesus has a Spirit (The Spirit of Christ)Man has a Spirit (The Spirit of Man)I confess I never heard your points of argument before – this is new to me.You believe that God is OneThat he is the Father -…[Read more]

ED J,I don't know what to think of what you have written.What is “Half Dead” ? Is that not a sloppy term used in common every day language. Ask a surgeon what “Half Dead” means?And what was the point of the parable: I didn't get it?Are you saying that Jesus was only HALF Dead when he Died on the cross because he was Half Man and half God and it…[Read more]

ED J,What on Earth or in Heaven is a “1/2 God”? Are you Greek?What is your definition of God?

Ed J, can I ask? Why did you quote my words to WJ as if I was speaking to you?———–TT, God not ALL in ALL: Didn't God give his HOLY Spirit to Jesus and is taking a 'back seat' until Jesus delivers the Kingdom.Your arguments are twisty and bendy, you are a slippery one indeed – how hard it is to tie a serpent in a knot.If a precise were to be…[Read more]

TT,”In My Name”: God will send his Holy Spirit as a comforter to the disciples and all things that it does will be directed by (Authorised ) by Jesus Christ. It will act and Speaks as Jesus directs it – It will Act and Speak “In His Name”.In order to accomplish all the things assigned to him by the Father he had to have direct control of all the…[Read more]