WJ,You have now turned into the deceiver. And you know what you just did…!

WJ, Katjo,The Holy Spirit is NOT God nor the Father but: “The Spirit Of the Father”; “The Spirit OF God”John 15:26 Quote But when the Holy Spirit comes, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he shall give testimony of me.

WJ wrote: “Don't you think it is strange that the majority of Christians today believe in the Trinity?”WJ, have you never read Matthew 7:13-14:Quote 13 -“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.”14 -“But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life,…[Read more]

GT,Spot on. Ever word of your post reflects my own thinking.Just as an aside – The God the Father is also never called “The Father of God” nor “God's Father”:Jesus: “The Son of God”; “God' Son”; “the Son of the father”Never: “God the Son”The Holy Spirit: “The Spirit of God”Never: “God the Holy Spirit”The Father:…[Read more]

LU,This is talking about Wisdom – Not Jesus.Noone has yet made a compelling presumption that it is talking about Jesus.The issue of whether Jesus was 'from everlasting' cannot be establish as there is nothing to clear in the scriptures to make this claim without refute.Perhaps it is not of concern (like the exact date of Jesus' birth) – except for…[Read more]

rev 22:13…

WJ,Quote JAAnd, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last”. Rev 21:12, 13″I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, **THE ALMIGHTY**”. Rev…[Read more]

Terra,the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth that also: 1) gives life ( John 7:38 ); 2) gives gifts ( 1 Corinthians 12 ); 3) counsels ( John 14:26 ); 4) encourages ( Acts 9:31 ) 5) steps in on our behalf ( Romans 8:23 ); 6) builds up ( Romans 8:27 ); 7) leads us to obedience ( 2 Corinthians 3:5 ); 8) brings to mind ( 1 John 2:20,…[Read more]

“Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings…”I just put the scenario to my son and asked him if one was greater than the other and he replied that the Giver of the Prize (also the owner in the case of God/Jesus) is greater than the one receiving the Prize.If the prize giver was not also the 'owner' then it is contestable who, if any issue of…[Read more]

TT, sorry to hear about your wife and about the snow. We had ours a few weeks ago but I still rode my bike to work through it.

WJ,We have dialogued many times concerning TT. My mind has not changed.His posts are rambling and flailing and show little rigidity which he requires to slip out of tricky situations.He brought ME into this discussion -as I pointed out:Quote TT,Why are you appealling to me to answer what you cannot understand?Moreover, this is a dispute between…[Read more]

Katjo,Wrong again. Terra is correct – again.The Holy Spirit is the: 'Spirit OF God'; God's Spirit; the Spirit of the Father; the Spirit of Truth.

Kztjo,How do you read verse 4 and still say that verse 5 refers to the same person?

katjo,Terra is correct.You only read it the way you say because you want to, not because that is what it says.What does Rev 1:4 say?——-God Almighty opens the greeting——-(vs 4) “…: Grace to you and peace to HIM who is and who was and is to come,”——-including God's Holy Spirit——-” and from the seven Spirits who are before His…[Read more]

TT, why do I get the feeling that you have just revealed the source of your anger and need for human praise?

TT,Why are you appealling to me to answer what you cannot understand?Moreover, this is a dispute between you and T8.I'm not sure what this 'equality/non-equality' is all about but Jesus' reward for the accomplishment of his task is well earned and God rightly awards it to him just as you say.I see in the father/son scenario someone making…[Read more]

Terra,There is a simple answer and there is a complex answer.The simple answer is this:There are those destined from the beginning to be saved – chosen by God to be servants of Christ;There are those destined from the beginning who will not be saved – given up by God to be servants of Satan;The vast majority are free to choose their destiny.This…[Read more]

David, I have posted on this issue in another thread and it was a virtual reflection of what you have posted.Jehovah God is 'Saviour' as the primary, initiating entity.He is Saviour for all in his Kingdom.He passed 'all things' to his conquerer Son, which obviously means his kingdom.Therefore, Jesus is now 'Saviour' over 'his' kingdom.For this…[Read more]

David, Terrarica,I have come to join your united front.David, brilliant post, well explained robust, Spirit filled.Terra, well supported, good backup.

WJ,I support those who speak the truth at the point that they speak the truth.If you speak the truth, I support you at that point 'concerning' that truth.This I have demonstrated. Even TT, I have done the same with…I may deal more harshly with those in one camp than in another depending on how far from the truth their major belief falls.