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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 08 2013,04:02)Journey,Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?Kerwin,Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,00:13)no one is tempted by Satan ,he did rebel against God and if we do ,we just joint him in the works I'm gonna fall of my chair!

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    journey42 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Wakeup.It's not important, but congratulations, you spelt “pentecost” right.  Good job  :)

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    J42Quote Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth (?), when there were no springs abounding with water; Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place, before t…[Read more]

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    Quote Do you believe like Wakeup, that we can reverse the order of the words John wrote, and claim that “God” somehow changed and became “not God”? Psalms 96:5   For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. What are your thoughts?I'm not sure of that conversation you had with Wakeup.  I know that Wakeup has explained m…[Read more]

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    Quote journey,Where do you weigh in on all this?  Do you understand that “the Word was a god” is one of the possible ways to translate the Greek words of John 1:1c?Hi Mike, Lets put all translations aside for the moment.  This is only clogging our thinking process.  Let's use what God gave us, and analyse from the scriptures to test.John 1:1 is…[Read more]

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    Quote J42YOU quoted ;Romans 4:15  Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.and you think this mean that the EVIL THAT SOULS DO IS NOT JUDGED ONLY BECAUSE THEIR WAS NO LAW ???That's what God said in Romans Pierre.  Not me.  You keep opposing the scriptures.  Why do you do that?God was not happy with Cain kil…[Read more]

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    Quote That indeed WAS a long post, journey.  :)But let's focus on the part I quoted above for a minute.  I agree with you 100% that “evil” can be defined as going AGAINST God's commandments, rules, and teachings.So did God actually create the ACT of going against His own commandments?  Because it is that ACT that is “evil”.To say God created be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 05 2013,18:00)AND YOU TRUST THEM IN TRANSLATING THE SCRIPTURES?wakeup.Wow, I never knew all that.Thanks Wakeup.

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    WakeupIsaiah 28:1   Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!Keep up the good work.  They hate it when you give them scripture.  You gave direct scripture proving that nearly everything he said was in…[Read more]

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    Tigger2Quote Revelation 1:8   I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:11   Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto S…[Read more]

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    Ooh and a computer for your Biblios and BLB Lexicon and your many dictionaries!

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    Quote I GETTING TIRE OF YOUR FLIP FLOP FROM ONE KJV TO ANOTHER KJV ,SO YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO KEEP UP WITH CIRCUS ;I AM OUTYes PierreMaybe one day, someone reading this may figure it out that the Word of God has been watered down, and made to look like a circus, with many many subtle tricks in there.By the way, I am not going from one…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, I think Tigger may of wanted these scriptures? Quote Although I see Jesus saying he is the first and last in some way, I don't see him using the title Alpha and Omega here.”The first and the last” simply means “only” and could apply in some sense to many, including Adam, Eve, and Jesus.”Alpha and Omega” is similar in meaning, but is more…[Read more]

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    Quote Wakeup,There is always a need for politics as long as there is right to be done at the government level.  There is even more of a need now than in the world to come.There is a need Kerwin, and that's why Christ has to return soon, to restore order because our governments are corrupt, being used as puppets for those who control them who…[Read more]

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    Quote J42TO AD TO THE PREVIOUS QUOTE;Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.”Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gat…[Read more]

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    Quote Quote but show me what 'BAD ” means in our today dictionary and also “EVIL” show me the meaning in the dictionary your words can not be trusted ,you have sweet lips Here your words emphasise that you are not seeking understanding from the scriptures themselves, but from mens books.  We are speaking of spiritual matters here Pierre.  You w…[Read more]

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    Quote but show me what 'BAD ” means in our today dictionary and also “EVIL” show me the meaning in the dictionary your words can not be trusted ,you have sweet lips PierreI am born in an English speaking country.  I first learn't what was “bad” from my parents as a tiny tot.  They did not have to bring out a dictionary for me to understand it.  …[Read more]

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    Quote RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?Parallel VersesPsalm 109:6King James BibleSet thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.New World TranslationAppoint a wicked man over him;May a resister stand at his right hand.New International VersionAppoint someone evil to oppose my enemy; let an accuser stand at his…[Read more]

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    Quote READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE  ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID   THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ” Pierre,If you want us to go into the backgrounds and judge what type of characters translated the scriptures, both old and m…[Read more]

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