Berean,

2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, ancient of days.

goings forth – Mowtsa’ah

origin, place of going, out from

the ruler in Israel isn’t going out coming from being a…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU:If Jesus was only human he could never have been the mediator between God and man, because to be a mediator between God and man and men you have to be on both sides. (DIVINE AND HUMAN)

ME: Berean you are giving your own theology, this is terrible, as it is directly against scripture. 

5 For there is one God, and one mediator…[Read more]

Hi Lightenup,

YOU:

2 Cor 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich.

Jesus WAS RICH

Jesus became POOR so that through His poverty

we might become RICH.

ME: Jesus was rich because he was the man who upon being baptized left…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

I’d really like to be able to actually discuss WHAT the SCRIPTURES ARE ACTUALLY saying, you just IGNORE the specific detailed content, like it goes in one ear and out the other, as well as ignore the direct connections among passages. 

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, he that cometh after…[Read more]

Hi Berean and All

Micah 2:5 is not a passage about the Messiah pre-existing in no way shape or form, We are being told that the prophecy below was an already given prophecy, a prophecy declared from ancient of days. 

2:5But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah, who are one of the little clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to…[Read more]

Correction needed to my previous post,

Jesus, one body fully anointed by the Spirit, was sent out to preach to bring people into faith in God and belief that he was God’s Son. Jesus said that those who do the will of the Father are his brothers and sisters, and he promised that their faith would bring them into eternal life.

Hi t8,

YOU:

None of these negates his origin.

He came in the flesh to become one of us, so we could be born again and become like him, the son of God.

ME:

The origin/genesis of Jesus we are told in Matthew 1 is him being of Abraham and David’s genes.

When Jesus was sent upon the Spirit resting upon him, where the people beheld HIS glory, the…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

He wasn’t born being a king, but they called him that because of…[Read more]

Ah, you quoted it from someone else and your response was given below, that makes sense.

This comes to mind for me at first thought,

Luke 1:67-75 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, And hath raised up an horn of salvation…[Read more]

Sorry t8, I’m really trying to shorten my posts, especially for your sake and that one was longer then what I hoped.

Hi t8,

We have the freedom to make choices indeed, but that which we choose is by reason of INFLUENCE.

To be carnally minded is death, the carnal mind is at enmity against God, it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be.

My understanding is that our carnal mind is our enemy and God placed us in bondage when He brought forth…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:If Christ be nothing more than a creature like ourselves then our salvation is truly by our own freewill. And maybe that really is the truth?

ME: I am not following your reasoning here.

t8, let’s talk about the passage below in particular if we could,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the…[Read more]

Hi t8,

How is Jesus the WORD of God according to scripture?

We know that the LORD said He would raise up a prophet like Moses from among brethren and God would put His words into his mouth. As this scripture is spoken in the NT saying it was filled in Jesus, that is God’s WORD made true in a man of flesh.

A man of flesh promised to be given…[Read more]

I’d like to add,

Jesus, one body fully anointed by the Spirit, was sent out to preach to bring people into faith in God and belief that he was God’s Son. Jesus preached that those who do the will of the Father are his son, his sisters, his brothers, and he promised that their faith would bring them into eternal life.

The church, many members…[Read more]

Hi t8,

John 17: 14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

It is NOT a LIE that Jesus is said to be a Son of a human and that he is said to be a Human. 

6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

Believing in what God’s words says is not carnal. Taking what God says and changing it IS carnal. Not apply scripture with scripture leads you to perceive passages through your own imagination, and that is likewise being carnally minded.

God made humans in His own image. NOT a lie. 

You are also told that each kind of creature that…[Read more]

Hi Caramel,

You cannot rid the words that Jesus specifically says that he is not a spirit but of flesh and bones. Likewise you cannot rid the fact that a HUMAN is returning to sit on a throne according to the flesh being the root and offspring of David, where God is his Father ACCORDING to His Spirit being upon him.

God appoints men and angels…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU:You words appear to contradict themselves, Jodi.  What other human being has chromosomes equating to their flesh father’s sperm that were personally made and inserted by God?  Whether he preexisted or not, you can’t deny that – even before God’s Spirit descended upon him as his baptism – Jesus of Nazareth was already a one of a ki…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU:

But could he enter the Kingdom of God in heaven as flesh and bone?  He himself told us no.  He told us that in the resurrection, we’d be like the angels.  Angels aren’t flesh creatures.  Paul later went into great detail about how the bodies of those whose dwelling would be in heaven would be changed from flesh to spirit. (1 Cor…[Read more]