Jodi replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 10 months ago
Hi All,
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me;…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 10 months ago
Hello All,
Trying to understand how your beliefs make sense.
The WORD, meaning the pre-existing only begotten Son, was made flesh. So he became in the likeness of man because he was made flesh, and he looked like a man, but he was not a man?
If the only begotten Son left his glory behind, we see Jesus on earth as the glorious begotten Son…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 10 months ago
Hello All,
I’d appreciate some clarification on people’s beliefs.
Some say he pre-existed in the form of God and then he came to earth leaving glory behind coming in the likeness of man but was not a man. So without his glory and without being an actual man, what exactly was he?
What was the glory left behind, and what remained that was needed…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 10 months ago
Hi Berean,
Jesus said he was <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>the Son of Man who has COME</span> to save that which was lost.
You are told that of the seed of David God raised up according to a PROMISE a savior, Jesus.
Scripture says Christ hadn’t COME UNTIL AFTER John was baptizing.
Jesus tells us exactly WHEN he was SENT, <span style=”color:…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi LU,
YOU:Gene, you are not a son from God by reproductive process, you are from dirt, we all are. There is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. If you were a son like Jesus, he would not be an only begotten son.
ME: Jesus of Nazareth was the only mortal man begotten of God’s Spirit, who was then SENT to set us at liberty.
Now he is to be believed as the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi All,
Jesus is God’s WORD spoken by the prophets made true in the flesh (his birth, his anointing, his sending, his death, his resurrection, his return, his kingdom).
Jesus speaks to us God’s WORD (that which was made true in him spoken by the prophets he speaks of it, that which was going to be made true in him he speaks of it, he speaks of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
To continue John 6, the context of Jesus coming down from heaven to give us life, is his second coming.
34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
John 4: 13 Jesus answered…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
I have been reading scripture so far all day, since 5:00 this morning reading John 6 and many other verses that directly apply.
Let’s LOOK at John 6 and the IDENTITY given of Jesus,
John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world. 15 When…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
OF COURSE the Son of God is from heaven!! Where else would he be from, the WORLD? NO.
Jesus said “I am NOT OF THIS WORLD AS YOU ARE NOT OF THIS WORLD“.
Jesus was SENT FROM God. LIKEWISE John the Baptist was SENT FROM God.
If you are SENT FROM GOD, it means that you are COMING FROM WHERE EXACTLY?……
……………..FROM…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Carmel,
This is ridiculous.
The truth given is wonderful and you just reject it because you want to make Jesus into the image of a COMPLETE PAGAN DEMIGOD as you have been corrupted by a doctrine of Christian “converts, not Christians at all actually, but false apostles who loved the likes of their own gods and the doctrines of their…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Lu,
YOU: Please describe the qualities of a firstborn lamb at passover.
ME: I could not tell you anything about “firstborn lambs” at passover because the bible doesn’t mention anything about “firstborn lambs” at passover.
“Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year”
Male lambs of the first year in order to be sacrificed…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Carmel,
John 17:24 Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me: that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world.
Of course the Father loved the Son of Man Jesus before the foundation of the world, by the Father’s determined purpose and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
YOU: Find me verses which prove that “the words of God” are GOD because I know none.
If that were the case, we would have known about these things for a long time.ME: Berean I am not following you at all, this is very bizarre to me.
You speak and people hear your words. People write and we read hearing their words.
God spoke to t…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean and All,
What Gene and I ask is that you apply clear given truths from passages to other passages.
I have asked this before, for people to APPLY prophecies directly to the chapter of John 1.
Long before John spoke God’s word, MOSES, DAVID and ISAIAH SPOKE God’s word. John speaks of Jesus with the same truth that Moses, David and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Berean,
Gene is absolutely right and what you speak is absolute absurdity.
Matthew 12: 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Berean, why do you suppose that by a person’s words they may be justified or condemned?
YOUR words reflect your thoughts, your very character, and like Gene said, your…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi LU,
YOU:
Hi Jodi,
Jesus taught that he was the Son of God and also the giver of eternal life. That alone would be considered “making himself equal with God.”
ME: Jesus also taught that he is the Son of Man who is coming in his Father’s glory.
Your not equal to someone when your glory comes from the glory of another and that others glo…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean and All,
Do you accept scripture that tells you WHEN Jesus was ANOINTED and SENT?
Do you accept the WORD was made true in the flesh of Jesus, Isaiah 61?
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene and All,
You said it well Gene! “Your words are with you because they cannot be someone else. Even if someone quotes you, it’s still you, as the man Jesus said he was telling Us God the Fathers words.”
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but t…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
Israel believed that obeying the law gave them their godliness. They did not know the mystery of godliness, which is seen in CHRIST JESUS. Any man who keeps a law or laws does so because our One True God gave the fruit of His Spirit enabling them to do so. Christ Jesus kept ever letter of the law because he had the fullness of God’s…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
Your interpretation of 1 Timothy 3:16 makes the image of our Christ into an image of antichrist.
Recall what you are told by Paul in the prior chapter, there is ONE God and that God ONE GOD is NOT JESUS. Paul established clearly that he wants us to see Christ Jesus as a man, anthropos/HUMAN BEING.
1 Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore,…[Read more]
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