Hi Lu,

YOU:

Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?

Or

Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?

In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first begotten son of God.

ME:

My understanding is that Jesus w…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

I posted the second post before I saw your question directed to me so I will answer it in my next post.

Hi Lu,

Scripture is clear as to WHO the resurrected Jesus is, a human raised from the dead whose flesh was not allowed to see decay. He received the promised Holy Spirit, on that day he was begotten by God. He is the son of man exalted to sit at God’s right hand.

Jesus being dead and made alive again as God’s begotten Son we don’t see some sort…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

In prophecy FIRST you have a human son and THEN that human has God’s Spirit come to abode upon him, an anointing. 

In prophecy FIRST you have a human son and THEN God says He makes this son into His own son.

JESUS IS A HUMAN, a son of Adam,  who the LORD made strong for Himself, who the LORD called to righteousness and directed all his w…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

Thank you, that was a clear explanation.

Hi Boomerang,

I’m glad you got that off your chest and feel better!

Yes agreed, I’d say very cringe-worthy indeed.

Hi Lu,

I did not find the answer to my question in that writing. If I missed the answer, please cut it out and paste it in a post. All I saw was the same that is given on this forum where people take passages out of context and don’t apply other passages.

I asked people to explain how Jesus is said to be God’s son because he pre-existed but then…[Read more]

Hi Togel,

I do not ignore any passages.

Yes JESUS is called God’s only begotten Son, JESUS was the only mortal man to have been filled with the Spirit of God without measure, and at that moment he was filled with the Spirit God declared “THIS is my beloved Son”. God had promised that He would be a Father unto David’s son. God’s direct word from…[Read more]

Hi Togel,

YOU:

You said “The Spirit of Christ, meaning the Spirit of the Anointed, is the Spirit of God dwelling in Jesus’s spirit.”

I am afraid this is your own conjecture… Paul never says that Jesus has two spirits: himself’s and God’s Spirit in Him.

ME:

Here are some key scriptures for you.

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, [Read more]

Can someone explain,

Jesus is said to be God’s son because he pre-existed as such.

Jesus is likewise said to be God’s son because he was born with Mary as his mother and God as his Father. So where does the pre-existing son come into this equation?

Thanks,   Jodi

Hi Ed J,

We are all sons of God through Adam like Jesus, but also because of Adam we die, as Jesus died.

Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour</span>, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

Matthew 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.26 But if ye do…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

As you know my stance,

that God’s word from the beginning was of a man who would inherit God’s glory, and prior to Jesus going to the cross he was asking to receive the glory that was of God that had been given to him before the world even began. I believe that glory is eternal life, and when there is eternal life that means that God’s…[Read more]

Hi All,
Jesus is the man who executes his God and our God’s purpose. Jesus does nothing of himself, he does all things through our God directing all his ways. 

Hi Berean,

APPLY the fact that Isaiah’s prophecies are not yet completed. 

Who judges you and how is it that he judges? 

A man ordained of God judges you. 

A man who has God’s Spirit upon him, an anointing. 

A man who does not judge by his own eyes and ears. 

Jesus judges us through his God and our God, as our God directs all of Jesus’s ways.  

Hi All,

This is not correct,

…………….Mother……….Father
………………..Mary………HolySpirit
…………………50%…………50%
…………………………………/
……………………..………../
………………………..Jesus
………………………./…….
……………………./…………
…………………../…………….
……….Son of Man…….Son of God
………..(Mark 6:3)……..(Luke 1:35)

This is correct,

Mother——–Father

Mary                Joseph

 50%                50%…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

“THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF JESUS, it is the SPIRIT OF THE ANOINTING, or CHRISTOS, which is the SPIRIT OF GOD. not of the man Jesus.”

Amen!!

We are heirs of God, heirs of His anointing Spirit, why we are said to be JOINT HEIRS with the Anointed, glorified together.

As the Spirit bears witness to our spirit that we are…[Read more]

Hi Togel,

YOU: Jesus and the Father making THEIR home IN US! So, the Holy Spirit is basically the Spirit of the Father and the Spirit of Christ, because we know that it is the Holy Spirit that indwells in us.

ME: What you say is not what I see the scriptures teach.

There is ONE SPIRIT and it is our ONE GOD THE FATHER’S. Jesus being the promised…[Read more]

Hi Togel,

Thanks for reading my post and giving a reply.

YOU:

Jodi,
Then explain this verse:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and WE WILL come to him and make OUR HOME with him.

Jesus and the Father will come and make THEIR home with those who love Jesus.

ME:

Speaking of t…[Read more]