This gets to the heart of why I had asked on the other thread as to why God would forgive all sins through the obedience of one man going to die on the cross. 

The answer has everything to do with the power of our heavenly Father’s anointing Spirit upon a man. 

Adam and Eve were not anointed with the Spirit, they certainly did not have it w…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Excellent posts!

“So proclaimer, yes all in Adam die, (even Jesus died) , all in the “Christos” (anointing) shall live.

Jesus is not “himself” the ANOINTING SPIRIT, OF God, he is an “ANOINTED ONE” OF GOD, Big difference.”

“Thinking that God sent a being “desguised” in the form of a human being to accomplish anything in humanity is aps…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

“41 And he (Christ) said unto them,
How (Jodi and others) say they that Christ is David’s son?

42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD (JEHOVAH) said unto my Lord (Christ),
Sit thou on my right hand, 43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

44 David therefore calleth him (Christ) Lord, how then is he (Ch…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

What do we have in Acts,

Jesus is David’s son who dies. He is resurrected and on that day he is said to receive the promised Holy Spirit, where on that day he is said to receive the promised mercies of David, where on that day he is said to be begotten by God. Romans 1 tells you that he is the son of David and is God’s Son according to…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Jesus according to scripture is the genetic son of Joseph who is of the house of David.  Joseph would have came together with Mary and had Jesus the natural way, but God promised a son through the house of David by a SIGN of a virgin birth, so God brought forth Joseph’s son through the power of His Holy Spirit.

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

Jodi,

The virgin birth discounts your idea, and so does this:

“for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.” (Jer 22:30)

ME: First of all scripture is not “my idea”, second, what are you trying to say, that God has LIMITED POWER? 

Jesus in Matthew is declared to be OF t…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Why do you ignore my points, refusing now twice to not even mention them?

Ed J, God is not a liar when He brings forth mercy from given judgements.

God said that they shall not return, but He gave mercy and they did return. God said to render Jeconiah childless, but God had mercy and he did have children and those names are written. We…[Read more]

Ed J,

Saying that CHRIST came down from heaven at his conception is to deny direct scripture of Luke 4 and Acts 10.  Also passages that speak that his coming came AFTER the baptism John preached.

It is your idea, not given scripture, that Christ had to have come down from heaven and be the Bread from heaven upon his conception, since Bethlehem…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

1 Corinthians 10:.16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion (fellowship) of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion (fellowship) of the body of Christ? 17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.

Ed J, the body of Christ equates to a…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

We’ve gone over this before I believe.

Micah 5:2 is about how one from the tribe of Judah was going to come forth, and that coming forth of one from that tribe who would be a ruler, was declared by God from the beginning.

Keep the text straight, it is NOT that a person existed from long ago who would come, it is the word of the COMING…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

We have discussed this before,

You are in error,

Jesus was a mortal human who could be tempted, who could feel pain and who could die.

He could have chosen to save himself from death on the cross, but he didn’t because he was obedient, and he was obedient because God was directing all his ways. The very reason why he was persecuted…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Yes the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of God are the same thing.

Just like when Jesus said that he came down from heaven he was saying that he came to us directly from God, God’s word came down from heaven and was made true in him and then he was sent out into the world. Jesus was sent from heaven/from God being not of this world,…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

AMEN!!!

This whole business of saying Jesus is “The Word”, is just one of the most nonsensical doctrines of all.

I’d really like to see them admit that our Father promised to rest His Spirit upon the son of Jesse, and Jesus became that word that was spoken by our Father made true in him, thus our Father’s word that He spoke was made…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

The solution is: the virgin birth. Jesus only had one human parent, Mary. His mother was of David’s line,
but not through Jeconiah (Luke 3:31). Joseph was Jesus’ legal father, but not His physical one. Thus, Jesus
was of royal blood through Mary, but the curse of Jeconiah stopped with Joseph and was not passed on to Jesus.

ME: The…[Read more]

Good Morning Ed J,

I know my post was long, but you missed key things that I said which makes your response to me, asking me if God lied, completely ridiculous.

First of all, I said, “we know anyway that God gives His mercy and lifts judgments”

Lifting a judgment does not make God a liar, it means God gives His mercy.

Jer 22:27 But to the land…[Read more]

Hi Pilgrim,

YOU:

You said “The word of God is God, he and his words are one and the same thing”. So God “was made flesh, and dwelt among us” (John 1:14). So Jesus was God and Man. I knew you would eventually acknowledge the truth.

ME: Not good form Pilgrim to deduce a belief by picking out part of my post and ignoring the rest. Makes sense t…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Prophecy was that first you have a son of David who would come from David’s sons. Matthew gives us those sons who link Jesus directly to David. The text is NOT AN ADOPTION, but gives us the very genes, the very stock to which Jesus comes from, his ancestry.

Prophecy is first you have a Son of Man who then God is mindful of and visits,…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Your video did not provide any ounce of proof to me at all, it’s an argument I am well aware of and have already discussed on this forum to be false.

Matthew gives us the generation (Genesis/origin, ancestry) of Jesus, the generations (Genea/fathered-of the same stock) of Jesus.

You don’t use the words “of the GENESIS of“, and the…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Since this thread is titled Born and begotten, I thought this would be the appropriate place to discuss Jesus’s conception.

YOU:

Jodi,

You want me to prove to you Joseph is not Jesus biological father?

ME: I am interested in seeing what your proof is.

Hi Carmel,

When you don’t apply the given truth you then read other scriptures with total error.

As said before, Isaiah’s prophecies are not yet completed, and what you have is the son of Jesse who fulfills YHVH’s word through YHVH’s Spirit that is upon him directing all his ways. According to the word of God given to us by Isaiah concerning…[Read more]