Hi Ed J,

As you want to change the actual meaning of words, take GENESIS and make it into ADOPTION, and then CHANGE GENEA to ADOPTION only when it relates to Christ, I ask people to consider the following,

As the Greek has NO PUNCTUATION I have left it out below,

16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary of whom was born Jesus who is…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU: The problem is you attempt to force Joseph into the story, when the bible is clear
Joseph was not Jesus father.

YOU: so far here are things we do agree upon…

Joseph’s genealogy is given in Matthew 1:2-16 (Abraham to Joseph)

and

Mary’s father’s genealogy is given in Luke 3:23-38
(going all the way back to Adam, son of God)
At…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

It’s just not good form to give an accusation again that was proven to be false and not “try” to then at least give further examples. Giving an accusation and not backing it up with an example just makes you appear like a slanderer.

Let me ask you this,

Is there ONE BIBLE that you believe is PERFECT in ALL word and in ALL punctuation?

I don’t.

Hi All,

Luke 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business? 50 And they understood not the saying which he spake u…[Read more]

Hi All,

Luke 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business? 50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto…[Read more]

Hi All,

A Son of God is not a Son because you exist as a particular kind of creature, but rather you’re a Son of God when you as the creature you are, live being fully LED by God’s Spirit.

Exactly why Paul tells us that those who are LED by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God, and the Spirit bears witness to our spirit that we are children of…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Because the young Jesus called YHVH his father
we can assume then that he must have been his Father from birth, correct?

NO

YHVH our heavenly Father knows us and loves us before we are born, and all the works of our heavenly Father’s hands since the beginning were made by reason of and for his Son Jesus Christ to receive dominion over…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

I just don’t understand how it seems you do not apply in your thoughts the significance to the anointing of Jesus of Nazareth.

He was anointed and sent TO heal all that were oppressed of the devil, he did so through receiving the Spirit not by measure. He could do nothing of himself.

You don’t equate that as to WHY Jesus would…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Phil <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>2:5 </span>Let this mind be in you, which was also in <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Christ Jesus</span>:

Now if we don’t agree on who<span style=”color: #ff0000;”> Christ (Anointed) JESUS</span> is from verse 5, then we won’t agree on the “who” in verse 6 is speaking of, nor what the passage is…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

YOU:Okay, if the Holy Spirit didn’t come upon Mary and Joseph is the father of the child, then why did Joseph question Mary being pregnant. And the baby had a 50% chance of being female or thereabouts. So would that baby be the daughter of God if it was female? And could she have died for the sins of humanity. And wouldn’t she be…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

ME: Jesus is called a son OF a HUMAN many times over.
He’s not a half-breed or some one of a king being,
he IS EXACTLY what scripture says that he is A HUMAN BEING…

YOU: Are you changing even more words now to fit your narrative?

ME: You have answered NO, saying that I would not be a liar from changing the word “man” to “human bei…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU: This is not relatively short nor is it very simple instead you roam all over the place like I say…

ME: Oops, you have taken what I said from one post that was meant specifically for that particular post, and applied it to another post.

A specific post I said was “relatively short and clear”, but you couldn’t even respond to it. S…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

Hi Jodi,

You are very observant. Yes I’m trying to put my words to your beliefs.
ok great! We have to go very slow to keep you on track with my words.

So Jesus was referring to YeHoVaH as his father from birth then, right?

“Yes” or “No” ?

ME:

I can’t answer a question that is unclear to me.  

In the text Jesus is most certa…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU: Why do you roam all over the place? Please stay on track…

Jesus was saying YeHoVaH was his father then right?
“Yes” or “No” ?

ME: As said I said previously to this question “of course”, which would mean a definite yes would it not? 

You then took what I said after saying “of course” and asked another question trying to put in you…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

I gave a relatively short and certainly very simple post to you, can you respond to it?

Adam is the name of the first HUMAN is it not? When it is then used of Adam’s offspring it doesn’t represent humans? You want to tell me that when a translator uses the word human instead of “man” they are being liars?

Deut 8:3 that he might make th…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

I am not roaming all over the place.

I posted a response to what Princess had inaccurately stated.

Then I posted to you directly concerning what we have been talking about.

You are pushing that some translators have incorrectly translated the word GENESIS.

I hate to break it to you but “generations”, “ancestry”, “genealogy”, “family…[Read more]

Hi All,

We are told that God declared the END from the beginning, that a man would come and execute God’s purpose bringing forth salvation unto eternal life.

Eternal life was even promised by God before the world was. (Titus 1)

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of JESUS Christ (ANOINTED), the Son of God; ….10 And straightway coming up out…[Read more]

Ed J,

Today I would like to first address what you said to Gene, “Have you now joined Jodi in the rant speeches?

I am going to break down for you the last post I gave just prior to you giving the accusation that I give “rant speeches”, with backing up what I said with direct scripture. 

“Jesus of Nazareth gave all credit to God because God’s Sp…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

So you answer is Jesus was speaking collectively in behalf of Israel,
rather then indicating that God is his birth Father – is that your answer?
It is nice when we can discuss things, rather than taking turns giving speeches.

ME: No

God calls Israel His son, all the children of Israel were to see themselves individually as a c…[Read more]