Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Good Morning Berean,
I have 3 points for you.
1.Yes our heavenly Father created all things ALONE, BY HIMSELF, as we are directly told by Isaiah.
2. Our One and Only True God The Father, created all things by reason of and for the Son of Man Jesus, that he might be a firstborn among many brethren, for our heavenly Father created man in His own…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi LU,
YOU:
Jesus, according to the flesh has one biological human parent, (Mary).
Jesus, according to the flesh has one legal but not biological human father, (Joseph).
The conception in Mary was from the Holy Spirit. Mary is a distant offspring in the line of David, therefore so is her firstborn son, Jesus. Her conception was supernatural…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi LU,
YOU:
Thanks for your response. I have got to give you credit for trying but at the same time missing why Jesus is in the lineage of Abraham to Joseph (according to the flesh). It was because Jesus was born of Joseph’s wife, Mary.
ME: Matthew directly goes against your position above, he gives us the BOOK of the G…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Lu,
YOU: Do you realize that pronouns in Greek are written in a way to show if they refer to a female or a male? That word “whom” refers to a female, so, it does not refer to Joseph, it refers to Mary.
ME:
LU, thank you for pointing this out, but unfortunately for you that doesn’t change the context of what Matthew is directly telling us.…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
YOU:
why do you want to ignore what Jesus was before he was born on earth?
the bible testifies that he existed before his birth on earth.
He was “The Word of God” who was with God and who was God. This is how John calls it.ME:
Any passage that you give me that you say teaches pre-existence, I can show directly through scri…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Good Morning LU,
YOU:
I would appreciate it if you would clarify who you believe the word “whom” in v. 16 is referring to. Is it referring to Joseph or Mary?
16 And Jacob begat Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom begat Jesus, who is called Christ.
Thanks, LU
ME:
Since Matthew in verse 1 says specifically we are being given the GENESIS/ORIGIN…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Ed J,
This is a perfect example of when a doctrine has a person down such a dark hole, they aren’t capable of seeing the clear truth.
1 The book of the generation (GENESIS) of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;……..going to…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Ed J,
YOU:
Do you agree that the genealogy in Like 3:23-38 is Mary’s father’s Genealogy?
“Yes” or “No” ?
ME: I have already answered this question Ed J.
I said, I believe it is reasonable to believe so.
I have explained to you that as Jesus is said to be an anthropos/adam/HUMAN BEING, one born in a human womb mind you, in order for him…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Sorry I missed your question, but why quote a simple question from me and not respond to it and then ask me your question again??
ME: Is there ONE BIBLE that you believe is PERFECT in ALL word and in ALL punctuation?
I don’t.YOU: Do you believe some verses of Scripture have more than one meaning?
“Yes” or “No” ?
ME: I’ll just gues…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
YOU: He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. (John 3:31)
ME:
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Berean, Jesus was BEGOTTEN of God’s Spirit without m…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
WHY do you not address Matthew 1, but instead ignore it?
The book of the GENESIS of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham, Abraham begat Isaac, Isaac begat……Jacob begat Joseph…so all the generations from Abraham to David and to David unto Christ….
This is NOT an adoption!! Verses 1-16 and then a summary of this…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
Great that you bring up Hebrews 10:5, let’s look at more of that chapter and compare it with what Paul said elsewhere.
Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Good Morning Berean,
YOU:
Reminder
Joseph did not contribute in any way to the formation of the physical body of Jesus; it was the Holy Spirit of God who engendered and formed the physical body of Jesus in the womb of Mary.
ME:
Yes it was the Holy Spirit of God that brought forth the conception, however to make Matthew’s words true as to the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Ed J,
This is what I am seeing,
Phrases like, “I WILL” and “TO BE” you will change their meaning in certain instances to fit your narrative.
The words GENESIS and GENEA you change their meanings when they pertain specifically to Jesus so to fit your narrative.
You ignore he who is anointed Mashach thus becomes a Mashiyach and he who is…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
Can you agree that the WORD of eternal life was WITH the Father from the beginning?
That Jesus being slain shedding his blood was according to our Father’s determined purpose and foreknowledge?
That our Father declared the End from the beginning and a man would come and execute our Father’s WORD that our Father declared, which was…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
Whatever kind of being you think Jesus existed before as, he most certainly did not RETURN to, unless you believe he pre-existed as a son of David, a human being with eternal life?
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
As I have recently been saying, Jesus is not a Son of God because of what kind or type of “being” he is, but rather because the “being” that he is has been begotten by God.
Jesus was raised you are told having received the PROMISED Holy Spirit and the mercies of David. He was a dead body of human flesh who then God quickened and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
If you could think on the below passages and respond to my points that come FROM those passages, that would be much appreciated.
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; 3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Good Morning Berean,
YOU:
Joseph IS the Jesus earthly’s Father
But God IS His Divine Father
Jesuss saithu her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
ME:
Not sure what you are trying to prove here from this ve…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic This Day I Have Begotten Thee in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi All,
So Jesus ALREADY HAD A BODY, he was already a certain kind of “being” and when he as that “being” was raised back to life God begat him and called him His Son.
I do hope that people agree that when you are begotten by God you thus then are a Son of God!
My understanding is that when Jesus, the son of David, came back to life he was…[Read more]
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