Berean,

Can you DEFEND your doctrine or not? I give you scripture that speaks against it, and you just ignore it. Don’t you realize that you have zero credibility, if you cannot speak to ALL scriptures?

You have not responded as I am aware, that you are told directly from scripture, that there was NO COMING of a savior UNTIL AFTER John preached…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Daniel 3:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar said, “Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king’s command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God.

To All,

The Word from the beginning, 

Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; 

The Word from the beginning was made true in Jesus,

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, o…[Read more]

Berean,

God’s angels appear as men on earth and they are the Sons of God. Daniel 3 is not any sort of proof that Jesus pre-existed.

To All,

Scripture does not teach that Jesus went back to a former being, At ALL.

Scripture teaches that Jesus was raised from the dead as YHVH’s fulfilled WORD from before time began, a HUMAN BEING HAVING ETERNAL LIFE.

As Jesus appeared to many they were a witness to the WORD OF LIFE made true in him.

That WORD wasn’t just for Jesus, seeing…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Continuously you do not discuss our POINT that goes beyond Jesus being a man whom was anointed and sent. 

If you just look at the END that YHVH had declared from the beginning. What is it? It’s a man, a human, sitting on his father David’s throne according to the flesh, where he is a Son of God according to the Spirit by his…[Read more]

To All,

There are no contradictions, everything is to be applied together!

John 7:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that…[Read more]

To All,

The WORD below given by Isaiah is a promise that a man of FLESH will receive YHVH’s Spirit, it’s an ANOINTING, where then this anointed man of flesh is promised to be SENT. 

Our Messiah, according to The WORD, was promised to come in the flesh. 

The WORD was that a man would be full of grace and truth.

Isaiah 11:1 And there shall c…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

Gene and Jodi are playing semantics.

You say he is, and I say he isn’t; period!
But Gene and Jodi want it both ways.

He isn’t the word of God but his name is called the word of God ???

Fence walkers

ME:

As I have been saying, I do not believe that Jesus was ever given the name “The Word of God”. The names that he has been giv…[Read more]

Proclaimer:

The Word became flesh.

Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

His name is the Word of God.

And yes, he is the seed of David.

True understanding of all this sees no contradiction.

A person who pits one scripture against another is not seeing the truth because both were inspired by the almighty God.

Jodi:

The Word became flesh – Yes,…[Read more]

Berean,

Of course a mere man cannot save the world, ONLY our ONE TRUE GOD THE FATHER YHVH can save the world, and HE did so through the seed of David. 

Hi Berean,

I believe EXACTLY what scripture says, not your doctrine that is the actual lie, which has been concocted from misinterpreting scriptures, which those misinterpretations come from you ignoring and not apply clear given truths from other passages.

I give you scripture to apply to the ones you misinterpret to show how they are to be…[Read more]

Berean,

There was NO savior that had come, until after John was preaching of baptism. 

Our savior came ACCORDING TO A PROMISE made unto the seed of David. 

By the eternal Spirit that came upon Jesus he shed his blood in obedience, and by such we are saved. 

The WORD of God from the beginning was a man who would shed his blood, a man that wou…[Read more]

Hi All,

To condense my post from above,

Rev 1: 5-6 tells us that Jesus Christ who shed his blood is a first begotten of the dead, made a king over kings of the earth, where through him many crowns are given to his faithful.

Then in Revelation 19:12-13 and 16 we are told,

This first begotten of the dead who shed his blood and where there are…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

This is what I know, 

Jesus’s name means “YHVH is salvation” and such is the word of God that we are told, that YHVH is indeed our salvation.

Psalms 119:37 Turn my eyes away from worthless things; preserve my life according to your word. 38 Fulfill your promise to your servant, so that you may be feared. 39 Take away the disgrace I…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU:

REVELATION 19:13
And he was clothed with a garment soaked in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Jodi
Do you believe what revelation 19:13 says
YES OR NO

ME: YES of course,

I have been posting on that scripture and what it means lately, I guess you have not seen those posts

Berean, I believe ALL scripture, and know…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

As said, ALL OF SCRIPTURE must agree. 

So let’s talk about, 1 Cor 15: 50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

This is what I know from direct scripture,

Jesus was raised incorruptible, in power, in glory, and he appeared to…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

So NO, absolutely NOT was Jesus telling people that he existed before Abraham. 

In John 8 Jesus reveals who he is, all according to prophecy, all according to YHVH’s word since the beginning, before the world even was, LONG BEFORE Abraham even was.

From the beginning Jesus was marked out TO BE eternally a king of kings and a lord of…[Read more]

Mike,

ALL of scripture must agree, I do not see that at all with your doctrine, nor with the doctrine of others. If you don’t apply clear given truths to certain passages you are going to understand them incorrectly, which is exactly what you and others do with verse 58 of John 8.

Below shows how all the words of YHVH does indeed AGREE,

In J…[Read more]

Hi All,

Proclaimer seems to have no actual response to my response.  He can’t bring himself to acknowledge that his statement I cannot possible say yes or no to because I don’t agree with the statement.

He gave a statement and then asked a question BASED on the statement, where he assumed I agreed with the statement, when I in fact don’t. If…[Read more]