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    Jodi replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago

    LU,

    I clearly established that YLT translates Mal’ak (messenger) and Anggelos (messenger), to the word messenger. You have agreed that one must look at the surrounding text as well as the support of other passages to determine which messenger the original authors were referring to for each given scripture. By such, NOT every time we read the word…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi LU,

    Paul in Hebrews 1:7 is quoting Psalms 104:4. Do some reading find understanding as the OT as well as the NT I believe confirms my position.

    Psalms 147: 11 The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy. 12 Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion. 13 For he hath strengthened the bars of thy…[Read more]

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    Berean,

    John 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34 For he whom God hath SENT speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    ME:

    Please explain how it is that we are to be judge by a human whom God ordained, and how we see that he as the promised son of Jesse judges us according to the Spirit of YHVH that is upon him?

    YOU:

    God the Father is the head of the YHVH Unity that includes the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Unity alone created the universe.

    The Son e…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    YOU:

    God the Father is the head of the YHVH Unity that includes the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Unity alone created the universe.

    ME:

    Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD (YHVH), and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi LU,

    If you only had the YL Translation, where Mal’ak and Anggelos are translated strictly as messenger, you would have to rely upon the surrounding text to be able to determine who the messenger was, now wouldn’t you?

    YLT SUPPORTS MY VIEW, a word that means messenger should be translated as messenger!

    YOU:

    Are celestial angels spirit beings…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi LU,

    Translators are translators don’t get them confused with the authors who were under the Spirit.

    All translations even though they DIFFER, you are saying they all should be taken at face value, well how would that not be confusing when they differ? Isn’t it because of that very fact that people are driven to use the lexicon so that they…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    What you said contradicts so many scriptures, you very much so lean on your private interpretations rather than applying scripture with scripture.

    Please explain Jesus being raised from the dead and receiving by promise the Holy Spirit? Please explain that likewise according to a promise unto Jesus’s father David, Jesus on that day was…[Read more]

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    Hi Danny,

    Thank you, that was most excellent and much appreciated that you took some time to expand!

    Now I guess my question to you would be,

    how was it that

    Jesus was obedient and still is obedient and will return and be obedient?

    Because he was a hybrid one of a kind being?

    or

    Because he was a human who received the Spirit without…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi LU,

    In the OT

    Mal’ak – messenger, representative

    angel 111, messenger 98

    In the NT

    Anggelos  -a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God

    angel 179, messenger 7

    It is the translator that decided to translate Mal’ak or Anggelos as an angel (celestial messenger) or as a messenger (human messenger) instead. One…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    YOU:

    Do you think that the “righteousness of one” is sufficient to cover our failures or do we need to attain our own righteousness to be at one with God?

    ME:

    Of course we are to obtain our own righteousness without it we’d go on sinning. We are an heir of God a JOINT heir with Christ (anointed of the Spirit) where those that are LED…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    YOU:

    Can you show me these five words together in scripture:

    YHVH our one God the Father

    ME: 

    The NT does not specifically use the NAME of our “One God, the Father”, but the NT does directly reference His NAME that we do see repeatedly used throughout the OT. YHVH is His name and His Son’s name is Jesus.

    Jesus’s name means YHVH is…[Read more]

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    Hello All,

    This is HUGE, who has understanding?

    Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    Thank you for all your support, I don’t think I tell you enough, but it is so much appreciated and very helpful!

    This is a bit of a challenge as there are several components that scripture lays out for one to be able to understand this topic completely and see the full picture. God really revealed it to Paul as he speaks to it…[Read more]

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    Hi Danny,

    Your answer was “because God said so” and you gave one verse out of Romans 5 where God is saying so, but it’s directly according to what He said before and after that verse as well as from other passages from other chapters in the bible.

    By you saying the explanation is “because God said so” directly tells me that you are ignoring His…[Read more]

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    Berean,

    Why is it that when asked to discuss certain specific scriptures you REFUSE?

    Why is it that when asked to clarify your own understanding you DON’T RESPOND? …or did I miss you giving your explanation as to the definition of the divine nature and the definition of the Holy Spirit?

    Can you use scripture to produce those definitions?

    Can…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    I care about what the WORD OF GOD ACTUALLY SAYS!  

    Our one God the Father IS OUR SAVIOR and He saved us through anointing the HUMAN BEING Jesus of Nazareth and sending him out into the world where he would be persecuted unto death for delivering YHVH’s WORD that people found to be blasphemous and threatening.

    Isaiah 46 directly t…[Read more]

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    To All,

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

    Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth😉

    John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I…[Read more]

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    To Danny and All,

    Deut. 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

    Luke 22:69 Her…[Read more]

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    Hi Danny,

    YOU:

    Allright. Let’s start with John 1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Jesus is the Word and was with His Father before the creation.
    Because verse 14 clearly identifies Jesus as the Word.
    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the o…[Read more]

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