Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
So Matthew is a liar then and the bible is not reliable? Please directly address the fact that Matthew says he is giving us THE BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN the book of his GENEA/GENETIC LINE where that book that he gives goes from Abraham to Joseph.
Can you concede that it is possible for Mary to be found with child of Joseph’s…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of/ek/from/by the Holy Ghost.
Would not Joseph assume that Mary had laid with another man, which would be the reason why…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
I have made it very clear that 1. Mary was a virgin when she conceived and 2., she was FOUND with child ek/by the Holy Spirit. How else is a virgin going to conceive if not by the power of the Highest?
Matthew gives us the BOOK of Jesus’s GENESIS, his GENETIC LINE and that book goes from Abraham to Joseph, you are just going to deny this,…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Back to Luke,
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 the son of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
If you could please address the below,
Matthew 1 is giving us the BOOK of Jesus’s origin, his genetic line of whom he was begotten from to establish that he is thus a bio son of Abraham and David, that BOOK OF JESUS’s origin goes from Abraham to Joseph. Joseph is without question the bio father of Jesus according to Matthew. Mary became…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Here is one,
Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.
In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence, in Isaiah 11:1
Rev 221:6 I Jesus have sent mine angel to…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph. Don’t lose sight of that. But with that being said, I am wondering if it crossed your mind, that the author of Luke is saying that people thought Joseph was Jesus’s father just…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Don’t you believe that Jesus left his glory behind when he became flesh?
THE WORD OF GOD,
Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Jesus is the ONLY mortal man to have received the Spirit not by measure. That is HUGE! We are told that is WHEN he was SENT and HOW he was able to go and do God’s work, that is how he was able to be our savior.
The flesh profits us nothing. Meaning that there is nothing within man himself that can bring him to the kingdom of God. Jesus…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
You seemed to have missed my point that Jesus right afterwards in Matthew 24 said that these Pharisees were BLIND.
How convenient for you that you see them as blind to one thing but it’s not possible for them to be blind to another.
Concerning David calling Jesus lord,
No one but Jesus has been made a king of kings and the lord of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
NO, Adam was not made into a one of a kind being, he was made into a human being the first of his kind. Cain was not made into a one of a kind being, he was made into a human being.
How Adam came to be a human, how Eve came to be a human and how Cain came to be a human all occurred in different ways. This is the same for Jesus, he was…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Berean,
Ezekiel 26:20 When I shall bring thee down with them that descend into the pit, with the people of old time, and shall set thee in the low parts of the earth, in places desolate of old, with them that go down to the pit, that thou be not inhabited; and I shall set glory in the land of the living; 21 I will make thee a terror, and thou…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi LU,
Let me first bring it back to this major point that is still not being addressed.
Matthew is not talking about an adoption, he is giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN and that of his GENEA/GENETIC LINE to establish that he is a bio son of Abraham and David. The book of Jesus’s GENTIC LINE, he who he is fathered by/of the same…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Carmel,
No you are not correct.
Let me clarify for you, there is numerous ways that we see glory in Jesus.
As the anointed of the Spirit made into our Messiah.
As the only mortal man who was begotten of the Spirit of God without measure.
As our savior through the Spirit of God that was upon him.
As the firstborn of the dead who received…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
It’s all about the Spirit of God,
Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Jesus said he could do nothing of himself, he credited all the works that he was doing to God. Jesus quotes prophecy of Isaiah concerning himself saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and r…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being#stm5752 (as was supposed/Nomizo/to think) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Jesus was the son of Joseph just as people thought he was.
Romans 9: 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Mary was also of the line of David, Jodi, and so Joseph didn’t need to be the bio father of Jesus in order for Jesus to have literally come from the line of David.
ME: Here is the thing Mike, Matthew tells us directly that Joseph is Jesus’s bio father. Please go back and read my second post, #937916.
I will add though that for J…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
We do have common ground with both agreeing that just because God is able to do something doesn’t mean that he did, but we still are not on common ground with your comparison, your comparison doesn’t work for me at all, they don’t fit.
The material of dust and stones are actually found in humans. All inorganic and living things are made…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 1 month ago
Good Morning Mike,
You are saying God could create a 100% human being out of an existing spirit entity. What about Mary where does she fit in exactly?
The thing is Mike is that I fully believe what Matthew tells us in chapter one, that Matthew did give us THE BOOK of Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, THE BOOK of his GENEA/GENETIC LINE to show how Jesus is…[Read more]
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