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    Hi Berean,

    Yes, as you said, “him” being JESUS CHRIST, but you are turning the image of Jesus Christ into a false image.

    Jesus is a name given to a human, a human born according to YHVH’s word. His virgin birth, his ancestry as he was born a seed of Abraham and that of David, also all according to YHVH’s word.

    Jesus’s name means YHVH is…[Read more]

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    Hi All,

    1 John 1:1-2 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; for the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was WITH the Father, and was manifested unto…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me…[Read more]

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    Hi All,

    As I just posted yesterday in “The Word, Titus 1:2 and 1 John 1:1-2” thread,

    In Rev 19 we are given the word of God from OT prophecy that speaks to a future ruler and we are told there is a name written and we are told that name is called the word of God and then we are given more of the word of God of OT prophecy of this future ruler…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    Seems to me that you are misinterpreting Rev 19:13 because you are ignoring the surrounding text and then you are using that false interpretation to support your belief.

    Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU: Please provide the scriptural support for your claim that God declared a man who would fulfill Isaiah 46 anywhere in the Bible BEFORE Abraham was born. (Who did God declare it to? In which scripture can I read about this pre-Abrahamic declaration?)

    ME: I am not follow your thought process here. Maybe you aren’t following my point…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    I would really like to lay to rest our debate over Micah 5:2.

    Isaiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
    7 There will be no end to the increase of His government or of…[Read more]

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    Good Morning Mike,

    So here is the thing, passages cannot conflict with one another so interpreting a passage that creates another passage to then be a lie is then an incorrect interpretation.

    1 Chron 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which…[Read more]

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    oops I said promises too, which of course I meant to

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    Hi Mike,

    I have clearly explained twice now that our origins all  come from Adam, including Jesus, which is obviously the distant past, so I have answered your question. But there is a difference between the origin of Jesus and the origin of Jesus as Christ.

    We are NOT all a promised Messiah as Jesus is, now are we? According to YHVH’s word/His…[Read more]

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    Good Morning Mike,

    I unfortunately have not had much time to spend on responding, last week turned into a 75 hour work week for me and this week is super busy as well.

    There is a lot I still need to reply to!

    I am curious though, as to what all passages in the OT do you interpret as declaring Jesus pre-existed? I know of two, Micah 5:2 and then…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    I am curious, where all in the OT do you interpret a passage to teach Jesus pre-existed?

    What I know of you so far is Micah 5:2 and Proverbs 8, is that it?

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    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for your email, I will be sure to reach out to you if it unfortunately comes to that.

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    Hi Mike,

    I have spoken to this before in our private debate but I am happy to cover it again,

    Yes we can all say, literally according to the definition of origin, that our origin/ancestry starts with Adam, which thus would include Jesus too. However, Jesus AS CHRIST which him as such also makes him our ruler our master our king, is the seed that…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    The definition of origin includes ancestry, it does not solely represent birth.

    I gave you straight from the dictionary showing that origin is in fact defined as ancestry.

    I just looked it up again and this was the first thing that popped up,

    “the point or place where something begins, arises, or is derived.”

    Literally I can therefore…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    ME:

    Jodi: Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning…

    Isaiah 42:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor…

    Malachi 4:1-2 “For behold, the day is coming…

    Jesus was prophesied before Abraham was according to YHVH’s word…

    YOU: Are you suggesting that Isaiah and Malachi lived and prophesied these things before Abraham exi…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    ME:

    Jodi: I didn’t speak incorrectly the word through has multiple meanings…

    YOU: What word?

    ME: I have said that Jesus speaks through YHVH and you  brought up that I speak incorrectly and it’s confusing.

    I responded with the below,

    Jesus is speaking through/on account of what YHVH had taught him.

    Jesus is speaking through/on acco…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU:

    Based on the Jews’ response to Jesus’ claim, is it clear that the Jews thought Jesus was implying that he was old enough to have known Abraham personally? Yes or No, please?

    ME: Yes, that’s a no brainer Mike!

    Jesus tells these same Jews in John 8, “my word hath no place in you” and “why do ye not understand my speech? even bec…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    Sorry, I probably should have started with this.

    YOU:

    For example, with the words, “Before Abraham came into existence, I am” REALLY MEANS: ____________ (You fill this part out in your own words)

    ME:

    I read it as, I am he

    and thus “I am (he)” means I am Christ, specifically concerning him as the anointed man who fulfills Isaiah 46,…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    I apply the clear given truth to John 8:56 and 58.

    Let me break it down for you ,

    1. We are given many scriptures about the day of YHVH, that it’s a day of judgement unto punishment or reward and he who judges is a man ordained by YHVH.
    2.  We are told it’s a day to greatly rejoice over.
    3. We are told that YHVH declared the END from the…

    [Read more]

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