Good Morning Berean,

I’d like to point out that most Christians with the same or similar beliefs as you and those also with very different beliefs, feel the very same way you do. Seeking biblical truth and a relationship with God does become very personal.

I am 46 years old and unlike you and others, my beliefs are not set in stone, as I put…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU:

You jump to conclusions too quickly.

IT IS WRITTEN IN ISAIAH 45 THIS THIS IS OK

BUT IT IS   ALSO WRITTEN   IN COLOSSIANS 2 ABOUT JESUS

all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

So how do we reconcile these verses with each other?

ME:

There is no jumping to con…[Read more]

Hi Berean and All,

I want to point out that it is ONLY in the making of man into the image of God that we see an “us” and an “our”.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the…[Read more]

Hi Desire Truth,

My understanding I believe is similar if not the same as Gene’s.

The “us” represents His Spirit(s). I first thought as well as you did that He might have been talking about the angels, but in reading that God says that He created earth and man upon it by Himself I realized that then didn’t fit.

I think it’s interesting that…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

KJ says,

Isaiah 45,

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness:I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down…[Read more]

Good Evening Berean,

Surely for someone so invested in God’s word, sharing and defending it’s truth, that being asked to read 6 scriptures out of 2 chapters and then explain how they specifically fit in with your belief, is not too much to ask, should be a rather small task.

Good Morning Berean,

Surely for someone so invested in God’s word, sharing and defending it’s truth, that being asked to read 6 scriptures out of 2 chapters and then explain how they specifically fit in with your belief, is not too much to ask, should be a rather small task.

Hi Berean,
KJ says, 
Isaiah 45,

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Micah 5:2 is a scripture that is one for debate, which is evident given the different translations.

Micah 5:2 (BBE) And you, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, the least among the families of Judah, out of you one will come to me who is to be ruler in Israel; whose going out has been purposed from time past, from the eternal days.

Micah 5:2 (GNT)…[Read more]

Good Morning All,

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

I don’t know how else to say this, but peoples’ interpretation of the above scripture is just really bad.

Correct me if I get anything wrong,

The Word= a pre…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

I can’t find “The Origin of the Son of God”, can you bump it up wherever it might be.

Hi Proclaimer,

ME: God Himself IS ETERNAL and by His power He can give us Eternal Life also, He IS THE SOURCE of Eternal Life, it is Him and it is with Him.

YOU:
The eternal life is Jesus Christ.
He was the first to be with God and as he is, so we will be.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father e…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Please explain to show how your interpretation aligns with the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah’s words.

You believe that all thing were created by means of Jesus, that Jesus spoke creation into existence. 

In Isaiah 42 the Creator is spoken of and he is identified as YHVH our God and this same Creator is said to give His Spirit to a…[Read more]

Berean,

Let’ not go around in circles, please address my last post, at the very least speak to the scriptures I gave and show how they fit in perfectly with your interpretation of Micah 5.

I will incorporate Micah 5 into my last post and also add Luke 1. 

Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there i…[Read more]

Good Morning Berean,

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

of – ek, of, from, out of, by

by– dia, by the means of, by reason of, on account of

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man…[Read more]

Good Morning All,

The WORD of Life, ETERNAL LIFE , was With the Father from the beginning as God from the beginning PROMISED Eternal Life to mankind.

God Himself IS ETERNAL and by His power He can give us Eternal Life also, He IS THE SOURCE of Eternal Life, it is Him and it is with Him.

The resurrected Jesus became God’s WORD, which is God a…[Read more]

Hi LU,

Continuing on,

In verse 5,  Paul is leading up to giving us the attitude/mind of the anointed Jesus and saying to those he is speaking to that they need to be of that same attitude/mind that the anointed Jesus had.

Is Paul asking for these men to be of the same attitude of a pre-existing Jesus who existed in the form of God or is Paul…[Read more]

Good Morning LU,

Sorry I missed seeing your post and question earlier and thank you for kind words. I am hanging in there! Hope you are doing well.

YOU:

I would like to know your understanding of what the One who existed in the form of God emptied himself of as spoken of in Philippians 2:

5Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in…[Read more]

Welcome Desire Truth!

Nice to see someone new and I’m loving your spirit and also your profile name.

One reason why I enjoy this forum is because it definitely does cause me to dig deeper also.

Looking forward to more posts by you, hope you stick around.

Hi Berean,

YOU:

For by REASON OF

If You wrote it on Google traduction

In greek You have

ΓΙΑ ΛΟΓΟ ΤΟΥ
GIA LOGO TOU

ME: 

Thanks for the info, but by REASON OF is still different from that of, by MEANS OF.

By REASON of directly supports clear given scriptures. By Means of creates contradiction and confusion, it produces a lie as it’s again…[Read more]