Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J and ALL,
What you should realize from John 6 is that if you read the chapter you will find that verse 62 is Jesus speaking of his RESURRECTION, he died and rose, and people saw him where he was before on earth. What you will realize from this chapter is that God SENT a prophet, a SON of MAN into the world to bring eternal life.
John 6:14…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
So you are saying that we do not in fact have Proverbs 30 straightened out?
You can’t admit that the passage is clearly speaking that it is the Father who is ascending in this particular passage?
Yes Jesus ascended from where he was before, but this passage is not speaking of Jesus ascending or descending, and we know from ample other…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
If you could take a look again,
Who hath ascended, who gathered, who bound the waters, who established all the ends of the earth, what is HIS NAME…..and what is his son’s name.
It could be said like this also, WHAT is HIS NAME who hath ascended, who gathered, who bound the waters, who established all the ends of the earth? and what…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,
As a matter of fact both spirit and soul are used interchangeably to represent life and the mind. I have given this to you before and it is NOT MY IDEA!! It is how they are defined using the lexicon and as well it can be readily scene in the scriptures.
What on earth do you mean the brain does not feature into scripture???? How else…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Absolutely an amazing post from you Anthony!!
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
LU,
A few things,
Show in OT where Jesus is CALLED Jehovah?
Jesus I SAID IS NEVER CALLED JEHOVAH. Jesus is called a god, from a WORD that is used for Jehovah as he is the one true God, AND it is also USED to represent other gods, as well as mighty men.
Mighty men are not true gods because they get their power through Jehovah, the ONE TRUE GO…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Good Morning LU,
The human spirit is his mind, his character, his thoughts, his knowledge, his beliefs and understandings and it dwells within the HUMAN BRAIN of which Jesus had. This human brain God placed His Spirit upon. This human brain is what processes the desires of the flesh and where temptation comes and Jesus was able to deny that…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,
Thanks for your correction, yes Jesus was made the Christ, that is what I meant if I misspoke.
When we see or hear the word Christ it is to be equated with the LORD anointing with His Spirit. Like Gene has said it is Jesus Christ, as in Jesus THE CHRIST, THE ANOINTED. This also transfers into Jesus the baptized, or Jesus the man BORN of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Thanks Nick, great passages.
Jehovah is our savior, there is NO ONE ELSE, He chose a man from the tribe of Judah and His Spirit visited him giving him wisdom, understanding and power, and then this righteous man was brought forth to die for our sins.They denied the LORD’S messenger spoken by the prophets from the days of old, and thus they were…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Jeremiah 23:6
5 Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi LU,
The LORD made Moses into a god unto Pharoah,
1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
God said that He came down unto Moses, God made Moses into a god where Moses had great powers. Moses said that God would raise up a prophet like Moses and the people would hear…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
The LORD VISITS, He comes down and goes up!! He is mindful of the son of man and visits him even to MAKE him to have dominion over the works of His Hands.
Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
lol Gene, you broke the rule, not that it wasn’t a good point!
It was a challenge for me too in my last post not to use the NT.
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Good Morning t8,
Thanks for joining in!
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”also,
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee sha…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Scripture states that CHRIST was made,
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
OT says that God would MAKE a son of man into His Son, and that He would make a Son of man into His firstborn.
The Messiah was to come and come FROM the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Lu,
This is what you posted,
“Last night I saw that you said this and I have to say that I totally unite with you in what you said here about what an only begotten son would be!…..
But, of course, it is not a real man; it only looks like one…
What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man.”If Jesus was in fact a MAN, than he was m…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi Anthony,
On the other thread you said, “I was going to start with David and Solomon, And study Isaiah lt seem you talk about the alot but I can start with the Messiah. K what do you think? God bless Anthony”
Yes indeed read from there and share their prophecy as it relates to the Messiah and likewise the promises given unto Israel as you…[Read more]
Jodi started the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hello All,
I think it would be beneficial for all to discuss our Messiah from using only scripture from the OT.
I have never done such a thing and I’d like to give it a try and see what unfolds!
Looking at scripture only from the OT does your Messiah reflect truth or a tradition?
The image that we each have of the Messiah, how will it hold up…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
LU,
I have a CHALLENGE for you and I do hope that you will except it!!
I feel like we should have done this a long while ago with Anthony too.
Let’s discuss the Messiah for awhile ONLY using the OT and no verses from the NT. Let’s put ourselves back in TIME before the baby Jesus was born.
I will start a NEW TOPIC and I hope you will join…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi LU,
First just let me say that I suggest like Anthony, reading some OT and then using it, as you should for your foundation to the identity of the Messiah.
Can you clarify your belief,
First of all from your last post it seems that you do not believe that Jesus was actually a human being, an actual 100% man, as you posted this, “But, of…[Read more]
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