DT,

YOU: You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

ME: I explained this to you thoroughly with scriptural examples, but your response was to ignore it and change the subject. God didn’t change his mind, you m…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU:

In your previous post you quote Deut 18:18-19 and make the presumption it’s pointing to the Jesus; did you read 15-22, it’s speaking of future prophets God will be sending. In the same post you speak of a “second coming” and it being “astonishing news”, is that the way the Jewish people would have understood the writings of the prop…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: I’m really not following your “gotcha moment”; it’s like you’re saying the Israelite’s aren’t Jewish. To me it appears you’re playing pretend, intentional ignorance. Are the Israelite’s of the Tanakh Jewish or not? Again, Paul tells us there isn’t a difference between Jew or Gentile; was Paul speaking of a single tribe – HARDLY! He…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day. Why do the Jews reject the Jesus as the Messiah; he never did what was prophesied and there is no verse that says the Messiah was to come twice.

ME: Just to pull what I said all together in my last posts that was in…[Read more]

Hi DT,

Duet 17:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: The major question remains, is the Jesus is the true Messiah; if he is, then why didn’t he accomplish ALL that was spoken of the Messiah while he was here; since he didn’t accomplish all that was prophesied, how can he claim to be the Messiah? It’s a tough pill to swallow,

ME: You are speaking nonsense. You are taking your own disbe…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: To say he will accomplish what was prophesied when he returns is improvable. Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day.

ME: Do nothing???????

Do we say he did nothing? We believe through God, according to God’s will, plan and by the power of His Spirit, that…[Read more]

Hi DT,

Yes, of course Jesus would need to meet all of the requirements, not just one which is why I provided a response to each of the requirements that you gave.

YOU: The reason the passage about the Messiah being Jewish is included, is because it’s a requirement; why would I leave it out?

ME: The passage was Duet 17:15 and it speaks nothing a…[Read more]

Hi DT,

Just a little recap.

We had been discussing Isaiah 53, where you specifically gave me points for me to respond to and instead of replying back to my direct counter points you completely ignored them and went with, “There is only one thing that matters in your response and it has to do with whether the Jesus is the true Messiah or not and…[Read more]

Good Morning DT,

Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those…[Read more]

Hi DT,

ME: Our God gives mercy upon mankind otherwise, we’d all be brute beasts.

YOU: Aren’t we created in the image of God? If we ignore God’s natural law of the “knowledge of good an evil”, we can become wicked. To call us beasts, is a stretch

ME: Oh good, we are back to one of my favorite topics!

Man is likened to beasts throughout…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: Me: “shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” Not sure if you know this but the nation of Israel was fractured into two kingdoms, the northern kingdom (Israel) and the southern (Judah). Please provide a NT passage that states the Jesus will gather the Isr…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: Jewishness is represented by the fact the child’s mother is Jewish and has nothing to do with tribal association. We can say the Jesus’ mother is Jewish, thus making him Jewish. The contention is his daddy, because the father is who determines tribal association ( Numbers 1:2). So being Jewish doesn’t mean your from the tribe of Judah…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: What is relevant is whether or not the Jesus had any control over his death. According to aforementioned passages, the answer is no. Can God’s plans be thwarted, not according to Job 42:2; if the plan from creation was to have the Jesus die, how could he or anyone have changed it, how could the Jesus say he freely laid his life down w…[Read more]

Hi DT,

I had just a moment so I decided to check in an see what was the latest on here. I saw your post to Gene and was going to respond to, “How can the Jesus “freely” lay down his life when it was preordained from the beginning of time for him to do so? What choice did he really have? Was he going to defy the spirit that was in him?”, but the…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: I do agree commentators can and do inject some personal bias into their understanding; however, when there are multiple commentators who agree this passage is a reference to heavenly angels are we to ignore the teaching in favor of our personal religious understanding/bias?

ME: Your comment here is rather baffling to me! So it seems…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: There is only one thing that matters in your response and it has to do with whether the Jesus is the true Messiah or not and every response that doesn’t resolve this is pointless. IS THE JESUS THE TRUE MESSIAH!?!?! This is the only question that matters! If the Jesus doesn’t fulfill one requirement of what is outlined in the Tan…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU:

He must be Jewish
“…you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you.” (Deuteronomy 17:15)

He must be a member of the tribe of Judah
“The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet…” (Genesis 49:10)

To be a member of t…[Read more]

Hi DT,

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom,…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You had said to DT, “Fact is, you or no human being has completely stop sinning,  we all “still” come short of that goal, why?  Because in order for us to completely stop sinning, something must be added to our existence.

Jesus “demonstrated ” to us all what that something is,  God by his “Holy Spirit” must come to dwell in us all, or…[Read more]