This is interesting in that the verse DOES NOT claim that had glory WHEN the world was… only BEFORE. Yet another scripture claim CREATED the world and all things within… and then another STATES that it was the FATHER who created everything ‘through’ the Son. Well, if only had glory BEFORE the world was, the question is then: ‘What GLORY did…

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@jael

You say that he didn’t come in the flesh. If you argument is to solidify this position, then what is the use of me even reading your argument. I wouldn’t dare believe that he didn’t come in the flesh. Until you can tell me you repent and believe that he did come in the flesh, then what is the use in hearing the details?

@jael

You say that he didn’t come in the flesh. If you argument is to solidify this position, then what is the use of me even reading your argument. I wouldn’t dare beleive that he didn’t come in the flesh. Until you can tell me you repent and believe that he did come in the flesh, then what is the use in hearing the details?

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@jael

Your following words are pointless if you stand by your previous statement which I will quote again:

‘Jesus’ is NOT whom scriptures says came in the flesh.

This is how we know the Antichrist spirit and I know that those who have this spirit have all kinds of enticing arguments to show others their logical reasoning. But the elephant is…[Read more]

@jael. You clearly state that Jesus did not come in the flesh:

1) ‘Jesus’ is NOT whom scriptures says came in the flesh. It is the WORD that came, God’s Word, God’s PROMISE OF A SAVIOUR (a Christ). John the Baptist did not call Jesus,’The word’ but rather, ‘The Light’:

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they ar…[Read more]

@jael

t8, I see you have no intention to answer my question but instead to post reply evasive responses.

Let me then put some propositions to you which you will agree to and I will say, ‘Why didn’t you just reply to me like this?’

 

The funny thing is I cannot read minds Jael. You asked:

t8, can you explain what you mean by: ‘Jesus is the uni…

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@Jael. You ask about Jesus as the ‘prototype’ son. It means he is the first of many. I don’t mean to demean Jesus with my following example, but to describe the meaning of the word itself, think of a prototype car which is the first of many to follow modelled after the original, or first image.

As for the meaning of son, you can think of the…[Read more]

@jael

The rest of your post is not worth discussing as it appears to be based in this misunderstanding that these angels were fallen angels. I would like to remind you that the video and other teachers do not say these angels were fallen, rather it is these who are fallen.
Genesis 6
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@jael

The rest of your post is not worth discussing as it appears to be based in this misunderstanding that these angels were fallen angels. I would like to remind you that the video and other teachers do not say these angels were fallen, rather it is these who are fallen.
Genesis 6
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face…[Read more]

@jael

At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people.…

Who were the…

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@jael

At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people.…

Who were the…

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@Jael

Help? I posted  a reply to  Andrew but I don’t see it. Has it been deleted?

Can you see it on the following page? Note: there is a load more link if the posts displayed are too recent.

https://heavennet.net/members/jael/

If you cannot see it, then I guess it is gone. Don’t know why. The site could have gone down the the moment you pos…[Read more]

@Jael

Help? I posted  a reply to  Andrew but I don’t see it. Has it been deleted?

Can you see it on the following page? Note: there is a load more link if the posts displayed are too recent.

Site-Wide Activity

If you cannot see it, then I guess it is gone. Don’t know why. The site could have gone down that the moment you posted it.

@jael

you asked:

The question is (not exclusively), ‘If Jesus is (some kind of) GOD (Define your version of ‘God’… !) why is he GIVEN a RULERSHIP that is LESS THAN that which ‘HIS’ already?

First off…YHVH GOD = God of gods + Lord of lords

Secondly…Jesus emptied Himself to become a bondservant in the flesh, which would seem natural to mean…

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@jael

you asked:

The question is (not exclusively), ‘If Jesus is (some kind of) GOD (Define your version of ‘God’… !)  why is he GIVEN a RULERSHIP that is LESS THAN that which ‘HIS’ already?

First off…YHVH GOD = God of gods + Lord of lords

Secondly…Jesus emptied Himself to become a bondservant in the flesh, which would seem natural to m…[Read more]

@jael

you asked:

The question is (not exclusively), ‘If Jesus is (some kind of) GOD (Define your version of ‘God’… !)  why is he GIVEN a RULERSHIP that is LESS THAN that which ‘HIS’ already?

First off…GOD = God of gods + Lord of lords

Secondly…Jesus emptied Himself to become a bondservant in the flesh, which would seem natural to mean, in…[Read more]

@jael

you asked:
LU, where do you see anything from me about a mistake concerning Proverbs.

It was when you gave the ESV as the translation that you quoted from for Proverbs 8:22 but you misquoted which gave it a whole different meaning.

You also asked:

LU, Jesus is a man, born holy and sinless by means of the overshadowing of a virgin (Mary) by…

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@jael

Well, is that your way of admitting that you were indeed wrong with your quote of Proverbs 8:22? You simply dismiss it and not admit it. Also, learn about Hebrew words and their genders regarding terms like life and soul for instance.

@jael

Well, is that your way of admitting that you were indeed wrong with your quote of Proverbs 8:22? You simply dismiss it and not admit it. Also, learn about Hebrew words and their genders. This should be eye opening for you if you care to see:…[Read more]

@jael

Colossians 1:15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold t…[Read more]