Open question to all:

What is the difference between using ‘God’, ‘Jesus’, ‘Father’, ‘Son’ in specific verses in scriptures?

Since trinitarians and JiG’s believe they are all the ONE PERSON why is there a distinction that CLEARLY differentiates , for instance, ‘GOD’ (which is the title of A RULING DEITY – the Jews in this case) and ‘Jesus’…[Read more]

LU, Two JW’s were so shocked – speechless – that they suddenly had to leave. You baked cookies and made coffee for them – but they never returned to hear more of your pearls of delusion…

Lu, did Jesus ever laugh?

No! Laughing is actually a negative reaction to someone or something’s outlandish misadventure! A social acceptable snipe at a…[Read more]

Andrew, I understand your problem… You have comprehension issues, specifically: lack off.

You want to try to say that LU is right but you cannot see where she is so you try to read into scriptures that which is not there.

Sorry, mate, but you don’t make any sense when you post confused explanations of non-existent reasoning.

LU, you said this:

“Regarding Jesus as the second Adam…simply put…the One through whom the first Adam was created became part of His own creation in order to redeem mankind and restore the fellowship between that creation and its creator. That truth is beyond overwhelming and truly you are missing the magnificence of it all, sorry to…[Read more]

LU, read biblehub: “English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me , the first of his acts of old.” (my brackets)

Where is my ‘misquote’?

“You both can revile those who believe in the Unity of God to include the Father, Son and their Holy Spirit as they confess this Nicene Creed, but is that wise?

Yes, The underlying theorem of yours requires t…[Read more]

Dear responders, please remember that the purpose of this thread is to explore the false claim that “A/the Son is equal to his/the Father”.

Where did this false claim come from? The only reference is a SUSPICIOUS ADDITION bit of text in the gospel of John that implied that “The Son” was equal to “GOD”…and therefore “WAS GOD”….

Please please…[Read more]

Lu is getting desperate and can only repeat the same false theme – cannot move forward as there is no support for her theory.

‘God is not a man’…that you should equate human fatherhood with the Spirit of God as Father.

LU, you start off on a false premise (typical of a trinitarian or JiG) and then stake a claim on that false premise.

A “SON…[Read more]

EDj,

A1) I’m not at all suggesting Joseph was Jesus father.
a2) How so?
a3) Romans 1:3 are among the many Scriptures

B) Not sure what you are trying to say here ???

C1) I believe we kinda agree here
c2) Do you have any Scripture that supports (It is the human sperm that carries the SPIRIT) this assertion?
c3) Do you have any Scripture that s…

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Andrew, try this test: When you want to try to prove a scriptural point, find THREE scriptures that qualify that point… Scripture ALWAYS repeats salient points!

You lay a claim to the element of a verse claiming that baptism should be performed “in the name of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit”.

Please show TWO other scriptures that support and…

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Andrew, you should read what the scripture says, not what you WANT it to say.

Where does the text you wrote say that the father reveals the son?

Nowhere. It only says that the son reveals the father…which is EXACTLY what Jesus came to do: reveal who GOD IS… To give the Jews THE TESTAMENT FROM GOD (‘I do only what I see my father do – I say…[Read more]

It is an interesting comment to make that suggests, ‘the early church fathers did not regard Jesus as being god’!!

Just where where was any such suggestion ever conceived by the early church fathers that could bring such a suggested denial to mind?

There is nothing to deny of that which was never claimed….!

BUT YET when Jesus Christ himself…[Read more]

Lu is living a romantic dream and refuses to wake up because the dream is sweetness to her femaleness.

The end of everything is that ‘For us, there is only one God, the Father…’

And that ‘one God’ is ‘the only true God’.

The main problem lay in the lack of definition of the word or term ‘God’.

You can see the confused usage clearly when…[Read more]

The way of the LU’ers in the truth of the Christian scriptures is in ignoring that very truth…

Start with a fantastical idea – in lu’s case and being a female – the idea that a son could emerge from a parent sits nicely with MOTHERHOOD… which is what stymies LU from understand what the SPIRITUAL meaning of ‘Son’ is.

She thinks of the…[Read more]

It seems clear that LU has no where to go forward with her theory and just keeps spinning the same line. She cannot refer to the vastness of scriptures to support her false claims and so just repeats and rehash her same ridiculous nonsense. She won’t answer even basic questions which are clear from scriptures no matter how absolute it is shown to…[Read more]

You mean, ‘Become deluded’ as you are, LU? No thanks.

You are romancing a dream of Eternal Unity.

Not only does the Christian scriptures never ever speak of any such ‘Eternal’ relationship but you are confused as to what scriptures says at all.

Consider that you cannot respond to how ‘The Son is equal to the Father’ from a scriptural or even…[Read more]

Can anyone show me from Jewish customs or scriptures:

1) Where a Son is supposedly equal to his Father

(I use ‘Father’ instead of ‘God’ as ‘Son equal to God’ is nonsensical and an synergistical oxymoron)

2) What it means to be ‘A SON’

(And I don’t mean a ‘Flesh offspring’. Scriptures makes statements of ‘Sons of God’ in various verses in…[Read more]

Dear Andrew,

I observe from your confession that you are appear to be claiming that you now believe the truth about God and Christ.

Well, that is a great aspiration – if indeed the truth is what you have found where you are looking.

In that vein I hope to see solid scriptural cohesion in your expositions from Here on in.

As for the lineage…[Read more]

Oh, by the way, ask a trinitarian who he worships.

He will say, ‘GOD’…

Then ask if he worships the Holy Spirit OF GOD… Actually, even, the SON OF GOD!

Watch as he gags and struggle, licks his dry lips and try to re-state, ‘I worship God’!

Havd you ever observed in a trinity church that they DO NOT WORSHIP Jesus not the Holy Spirit. No,…[Read more]

I have read in many places where the trinity is supposedly explained – and exactly all of them cannot explain it.

Here is one trinity site (or, rather, webpage) that literally admits that trinity is a load of nonsense.

The text is long but if anyone reads it they will see that the trinitarian author admits that the words used to try to explain…[Read more]

LU, each time your false ‘God’ is found wanting you attempt to induce another false idea into your ideology.

When are you going to stop and admit that your belief is based on ‘feminine idealism’: Unfounded ideas along the lines of ‘Mary, mother of GOD’.