Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Good answer, Gene. So you understand and respond with supportive example.
What then is it that the rest do not understand – and thence what else are they misunderstanding about the scriptures?
And consider this: Can anyone imagine that almighty God did not know that man would try to corrupt his ‘program’ – that almighty God would not put in…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
A computer programmer writes a program to achieve a given task. Does the human language that program is written in matter as to the effect it has on the purpose of the task?
Absolutely not: English, Chinese, Arabic, Swahili…! The purpose of the task is achieved no matter what the language.
So also the scriptures.
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Dear friends, are you not aware that scriptures justifies itself? That all of Scriptures is understandable by means of the Holy Spirit of God?
Jesus Christ always spoke in the manner of Spirit. The error many make is to interpret in the manner of flesh.
Men, in the guise of trinitarian supporters, found that scriptures could not support…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Sorry to strain the point but I just remembered that a trinitarian claim that Jesus is God (But NOT Almighty God… Why do they make a distinction here??) when Thomas said, ‘My Lord AND My God’…
Apparently, this utterance is meant to prove that Thomas thought Jesus was God… despite ALL THE OTHER TEN DISCIPLES making absolutely no…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Fellows, I would love you to confirm your beliefs by reference only to the scriptures. Why? Because anything introduced from outside as a supposed proof of anti-trinity theology could easily be countered by a trinitarian supposedly proving their ideology by reference to some other supportive outside reference…. See what I mean – what advantage…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Think about the trinity!! Trinitarians say the three are EQUAL and THE SAME GOD… But different…!!! Why would there be a need for THREE EQUAL AND SAME GOD (triplets) that are exactly the same God if ONE OF THEM ALONE is ALL POWERFUL AND FULLY 100% that SINGLE GOD?
Oh dear, but trip them up: it takes ALL THREE OF THEM to make the ONE GOD….…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi LU, can you (or anyone) explain to me what ‘a begotten God’ is?
In my understanding, GOD is one… ‘A begotten God’ would be ‘A’nother God.
In fact, what exactly does the name, title or term, ‘God’ mean?
I think that the exposition of the word will give great insight into why there are so many trinitarian misunderstandings…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Just to be more clear, when God said that he alone created the world and everything within, it blows the trinity ideology that it was Jesus who created all thing and thus brings into question the validity of the verses in the scriptures that appear to say so.
God indeed said that he was the only one who created. Now since the very word…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Why are Christians (and trinitarians specifically) so fear filled to imagine that GOD was talking to the assembly of angels – his spirit sons – when he said ‘Let us make man…’? After all, it was GOD that made man – not the US that was alluded to in the suggestion (And God made man in HIS image).
And exactly what is ‘The Image of God’ (please…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Kerwin, you are bordering on truth in what you said.
Thank you also, Gene, for your input which was very pointed at the truth.
Many seemingly trinitarian-approved proofs indeed fall way short of credibility. Take for instances these:
- “God said let us create man in our image…” Trinitarians declare that this shows ‘US’ means ‘Trinity’…
Jael replied to the topic Phil 2:1-11 In the Form of God, how and when? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Guys,
‘The Form of God’ has nothing to do with any kind of physical attribute.
The form of God is nothing to do with God being Spirit… (Indeed, at the very least a desperate interpretation could only be ‘spirit’: ‘God is Spirit’.)
We are not desperate trinitarians so common sense tells us that ‘The form of God’ is ‘Having the spirit…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
hi Nick, how about a topic for such a point as you mention. To me just joining it seems like this specific topic has moved away from the vast subject that it is. Considering how it is said here that trinity is misleading the Christian believing world with its false ideology I do find very little discussing or debate in this thread. Instead it…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi folk, I thought this topic was about ‘Trinity’ and why it is why it’s an unnecessary stumbling block? How does the death of Jesus and the saints pertain to this topic?
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
A question I’ve recently come to ask regarding trinity is this:
Trinitarians say Jesus is God because a verse from a psalm, <b>originally sung as a song about King David</b>, was also a prophecy about Christ Jesus. The verse has a minstrel singing that ‘God said unto my god , “Thy throne, O God, …will be for everlasting…”. Now, it is clear…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi all, why all these strange doctrines concerning the Holy Spirit?
The Father sends:
his Holy Spirit
through Jesus Christ
to the apostles.The Holy Spirit in Jesus:
is the father’s Holy Spirit
The Promised Gift Of (from) The Father
Is NOT another spirit (and certainly not a person)
Is that ‘other comforter’.Jesus is not…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hello LU, I think you will find that the Holy Spirit belongs to the Father alone: the holy spirit of Almighty God.
Jael replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
T8 and Gene, thank you both for your supporting response. The aspect of Jesus answering the Jews is always a tough one because trinitarians, when they see the truth of the response, are dumbstruck but demand that what they have been taught must be true – despite the evidence that it is not. My question to them is ‘What point was there to answer…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Phil 2:1-11 In the Form of God, how and when? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Gene,
What is ‘The Spirit of God’?
Is it ‘God’s Holy Spirit’ – the Holy Spirit of the Father?
Jael replied to the topic Phil 2:1-11 In the Form of God, how and when? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
‘Equality with God – a thing to be grasped’.
There seems to be a great debate about the word ‘Grasp’ leading to some claiming that it means ‘Something in possession’ (not sure how this can be) rather than ‘something to be reached out for’ (that’s more like it – try it in a sentence or ten!)
As a consequence, did Jesus already have…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Phil 2:1-11 In the Form of God, how and when? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hello Nick,
Phil 2 speaks of the mind of Christ.
interestingly, does trinity-Jesus have a spirit (seeing that trinity-Jesus is supposed to be God – and God is Spirit – and…the Spirit of God is Holy!?)
Does the Father have a spirit?
Does the trinity-Holy-Spirit person have a spirit?
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