cubes,paul and peter clearly did not refer to jesus here as “a” god… but their great god. (mine too)Titus 2:13-1513 while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ Mar. 06 2006,16:18)Hi Is,No I don't feel that you are trying to trap me but I do feel though that we're going off on a rabbit trail and off topic when we focus on WHEN Jesus became a son, rather than the thing that matters to our salvation:  that he is the Son of God.  That's all I am saying.Jesus was born of Mary some 2,000 years a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 24 2006,06:44)That's right. He is the Logos of God and he came in the flesh. So he came to us as a man, but he was the Logos/Word.hiya t8, how come i know you even if  i really don't know you? i mean i never met you neither i knew what you looked like. but because of your posts, i think i knew that you exists. i know your…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 23 2006,08:09)Quote You cannot fill one person with another2 CORINTHIANS 13:55Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you–unless indeed you fail the test? What do you make of this verse Ramblinrose?Mark 16:19-20After the Lord…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 17 2006,20:25)When Yahshua came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the son of man am? And they said, Some Yahchanan the immerser: some, Yliyah; and others, Yeremyah, or one of the prophets. He said unto them, But whom say you that I am? And Simon Kepha answered…[Read more]

hi t8,Okay, a couple of thoughts, lining up in my mind…1.As the father is divine, the son was also fully divine by virtue of his sonship. Does having the nature of his father made the son to also posses all the essential qualities and attributes of god his father?2.we are also partakers of the same divine nature by the holy spirit thru the r…[Read more]

hi whatistrue,to your explanation on psalm 89:27, i agree with the former but disagree with the later. for this reason, let us go back to col 1:15 and ltes continue to 16:Col 1:15-1715 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,…[Read more]

thanks for the reply, t8 and david,if the trinity doctrine is true, the father is said to be unbegotten, while the son was begotten by the father and father alone according to his deity and the spirit proceeds from the father and the son, so the father being unbegotten will not qualify for  the title, while the holy spirit, coming from the father…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 01 2006,19:07)Colossians 1:15″15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.”Col 1:15-2015 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. so that in everything he might have the supremacy.does the verse meant he…[Read more]

Quote (Sultan @ Feb. 01 2006,17:21)Quote (hybrid @ Feb. 01 2006,11:12)hi guys,i have a question then about christ's being.was he begotten or created?.What do you mean”Christ's being”?hi,nothing, just to complete the sentence.let me rephrase for you my question?i have a question about jesus christ.is he begotten or created?

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Feb. 01 2006,17:35)hi,Isn't every conception,conception speaks of the christ being begotten?Quote every newborn child … new born means no pre-incarnate christ?Quote a new creation?christ then a creature of god?Quote Christ, was no different!meaning there is no differenciate between begotten from created?.

hi guys,i have a question then about christ's being.was he begotten or created?.