Quote (gsilva72 @ July 25 2008,12:54)Hi all,1 John 5:20 declares Jesus as God. “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. “Hi Gsilva,The verse 1 Jn 5 refers to Father the only true God…[Read more]

Hi brother Nick,Thanks for those scriptures.So you mean to say our soul goes to sheol on our death and rest there?I think it may not have any memory of its own as per many scriptures in Job and Psalms. I also think that it must be a common place for both sinners and righteous.Now I can get why Jesus used to mention death as sleep because their…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2007,00:16)Perhaps a pre-existent Christ is in scripture, it just that we see the word angel and that stops us from seeing by reason of the narrow understanding most have of that word?Hi brother T8,Do you mean angel of the Lord was preexistent-Christ if so then why the angel of the Lord appearing to Mary, Joseph, shepahards,…[Read more]

So what do you say by that scriptures brother Nick a place or some being?

I agree brother hope we will not be in that list.Thanks and blessingsAdam

Amen to all those scriptures you just quoted.

Thanks brother Nick.

Free will is some thing to do with what you have quoted.

Thanks for that.Here is the definition of Sheol;SHEOLFrom Wikipedia,: Sheol (pronounced “Sheh-ole”), in Hebrew שאול (Sh'ol), is the “abode of the dead”, the “underworld”, “the common grave of humankind” or “pit”. Sheol is the common destination of both the righteous and the unrighteous dead, as recounted in Ecclesiastes and Job.Sheol is sometimes…[Read more]

Hi brother Nick,Thanks for your response again. Infact I was discussing about death here not hell which will be cast out in fire as per Rev 20:14″Then Death and Hades were thrown into the pool of fire”.You say “Man minus his spirit returns to the dust of earth”.But I understand man minus his spirit is only body no soul because soul is the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 24 2008,13:29)Hi Gene and Adam:The following is what I find in the dictionary for “free will”.Quote free will –noun 1. free and independent choice; voluntary decision: You took on the responsibility of your own free will.  2. Philosophy. the doctrine that the conduct of human beings expresses personal choice and is not si…[Read more]

I believe these verses for what you quoted above Jn 16:8-118 “And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this…[Read more]

So brother, 'He' is soul and his body is earth- according to which verse?

I agree brother Nick, but my question to is whether Sheol or death and Hades are some beings are some places to be cast out into fire?You also said in other thread that our soul returns to the groung or earth. How we can understand these beliefs in the light of scriptures where it says 'spirit goes to God and body returns to the dust(ground)', no…[Read more]

Hi brother Hanoch,Thanks for your response and I agree with you because of your openness. But I want to know whether he was a man or angel? It says here “you are a man” as well as “Anointed Cherub”Let us ponder into the scripture more.ThanksAdam

Hi Rudy,Happy Birth day to you. May God bless you and grant you all your heart's desires.Adam

Yes, but no free will only influenced will. Is that solve your questions?Every thing in this world works on cause and effects. God causes you respond where is this free will business my brother?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2008,09:25)Hi, Of course death is not the second death,the lake of fireHi brother Nick,What do you mean by this statement?Do you think second death is not death?What do you mean by death then?

Yes, the verses you quoted talk about the Theopahnies of the invisible God in the form of angels who appeared to men. They are not related to Seven Spirits of God. Please see the verses Is 11:1-3 again you can not just imagine them as any angels.1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the root of Jesse, and a flower shall rise up out of his…[Read more]

Being led by the Spirit of God is not forcing I don't know why you are repeatedly quoting it.ThanksAdam