Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2010,03:02)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 17 2010,02:54)Kill the animal and poach the skin. Do you think God intended this to be vicarious atonement of Jesus? But no Jew will agree with this view.Hi Adam,Excellent Job Adam; you walked through the steps perfectly!Can you NOT see this as 'a shadow picture' of the “Gospel”?Without…[Read more]

Kill the animal and poach the skin. Do you think God intended this to be vicarious atonement of Jesus? But no Jew will agree with this view.

The Yahweh Elohim made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them (Gen 3:21)

Hi Laurel,Greetings, in fact you talk like any ordinary Christian who uphold all N.T as it is. I gave lot of objections on N.T scriptures which deviate much from the Hebrew Bible. Please go through this thread from the beginning you find n-number of such objections. Try answering them by yourself. I am still waiting to see if Jesus was Jewish…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2010,00:14)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 17 2010,00:02)True brother Ed J. So they were given a punishment by God.Hi Adam,Before YHVH told them what the consequences of their sin would be,what exactly happened to them as a result of eating of the forbidden fruit?In other words: what was their condition prior to their receiving…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 16 2010,20:40)Goll,I feel that we need to be careful how we agree and disagree here between Gene, you and me.We sedm to be agreeing that Jesus rose in the same body that he went into the grave with.This is entirely true, as the Scriptures say, 'God did not allow Jesus' body to see curruption in the grave'.Jesus further…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 16 2010,23:35)Adam1Jo 3:4 ¶ Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.  What law? Jhn 14:15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.  Jhn 15:12   This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.”LOVE”, is the new commandment, if we love each other, then we w…[Read more]

True brother Ed J. So they were given a punishment by God.

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 16 2010,20:21)Hi Adam,How can we reason together, until we define Bible terms?What do 'you think' sin is?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi brother Ed,Thanks for your first post on this thread. Yes I can define 'Sin' as the violation of any of the divine commandments. Sin is an act not a state of…[Read more]

JESUS' GENEALOGY PROVES HIS ANCESTRY FROM DAVID AND PROVES HIS ABILITY TO BE THE MESSIAH? FULFILLED OR UNFULFILLED?Psalm 89:3-4″For I said, “Forever will kindness be built; the heavens, You establish Your faithfulness in them.” 4 “I made a covenant with My chosen one, I have sworn to David, My servant: For all eternity I will establish your seed;…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2010,18:04)Gene,Jesus told a parable of Hades, Luke 16:19-31, and from that parable we learn that souls continue to exist after the death of the body and that God can send such souls to visit the living if he desires.  We also know from Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 that such souls have no hope of a future because their future was…[Read more]

Hi Laurel,To see the truth you should come out of biased doctrines of Christianity. I have shown you how the Trinitarian writer of Hebrews failed to interpret Hebrew Bible on New Covenant. If you still hold such man-made doctrines I can not help. You should read Jewish scholars like Maimonides who outrightly rejected Christian Messiah as Jewish…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2010,11:56)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 15 2010,14:28)Yes you may be right in saying after all the translators were also human beings like us could have caused bias and errors. But the problem is N.T writers like Paul and Gospel writers were keen in finding some scriptural support for Jesus being the Jewish Messiah.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2010,11:44)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 16 2010,02:05)Here he never says resurrected Jesus had flesh and bones rather he says he became life-giving Spirit just like God who is the source of all life. Here is the problem with the writers of N.T. One side Paul says flesh and blood which is animated soul can not inherit Kingdom…[Read more]

Hi brother Gene,But Jesus' body was not destroyed or corrupted in the grave but he rose with the same body with wounds and holes as per Gospels and Acts. Is there a difference between what Paul said and Gospels claimed?Love and peaceAdam

I think we should stop this deviation of subject and discuss about Jewish Messiah. I am sorry I am not convinced of your explanation on Jesus being the Jewish Messiah. As I pointed out in my post that Jewish Messiah was not expected of what Christianity complicated with Jesus being the giver of Life and Life-giving Spirit where only God is the…[Read more]

Since it is not so required as you are going out of topic brother Ed.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 16 2010,01:40)Choseone ………..Right on brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………geneHi brother Gene and Jerry,Thanks for your positive comments on 'Myth of Free Will' which make God a weak and disable.Love and peace to youAdam

Hi brother Ed J,It is not Free Will thread but Legalism vs Spiritual Law.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 16 2010,01:13)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2010,18:01)Mike Boll,I read what you wrote and these are the comments that come to my mind.You seem unable to understand the concept that there is both natural flesh, bone, and blood and spiritual flesh, bone, and blood.   One major difference between spiritual flesh and natural…[Read more]