Please don't teach these age old myths of Christianity which I learnt from my childhood. There was no sin atonement mentioned in all those examples you quoted above. Please change the direction of your concentration and quote your views on Original sin and vicarious atonement instead of putting questions to me.Peace to youAdam

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,14:42)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2011,14:41)Yes you are right Adamic sin is not Original neither Lucifer's sin as you claim. All individual sins should require repentance before God. Atonement was not demanded always. In fact there was no atonement done for Adamic sin either. Only in the Law of God given through Moses…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 19 2011,00:30)Adam: Thanks again for the love. I would love to further my opinion of the original fall of man. Knowing that sin originates within the minds of individuals. It seems to me that man never fell away from God, he only believed that he did. God is everywhere, where would he go? Man created his own sin, judged…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 19 2011,03:30)AdamIn the OT God spoke to men “through” the prophets, just as Hebrew 1:1 says.Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  The last days are the three and a half years Jesus was proclaiming the good news himself. Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last da…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,21:33) Good compilation of verses to support Jesus' words as God's words. I wonder what does it mean to say that 'word became flesh' if Jesus was speaking God's words than his own? I think he is a mere spokesperson rather I can say he is the mouth of God.Peace to youAdamYou are quite right, the apostle John is the only…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 18 2011,22:10)Adam: Thanks for your response. As I meditate on the “origin” of sin it is conspicuous by its absense. Since in the KJV Bible the word sin is not used until the forth chapter it tends to fall short as an original sin being in the Garden of Eden or as a disobedience unto God. Was the word sin used in the Garden…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,20:39)Adam,Spirit of righteousness is the driving force of the soul.  Compare it to the spirit of arogance, or rebellion, etc.   Since true righteousness comes from God the spirit of true righteousness also comes from God.  The last I knew Jews teach the same.  I will check though.The spirit of man is no longer rig…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 17 2011,21:37)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,14:36)Hi brother Tim,I appreciate your contribution on this thread. I can also agree with you on the myth of Original sin (Adamic sin). Yes you are absolutely right in saying that Adam alone was cursed for his sin and not the whole Adamic generations. But I may differ with you…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,15:00)Adam,Man is born with a spirit.  Is that spirit the spirit of righteousness?Have you studied these things in scripture or do you instead choose to take the opinions of others as true without testing them?I have asked you to look up things in scripture and yet to receive evidence you have.Hi brother Kerwin,Yes…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,01:49)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,01:20)Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does to anyone else, rather angel or man…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,21:33)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,21:01)I mean 'ha dabar'.Shalom Adam,דָּבָר: (dâ-bâr) da-bar; because of, advice, answer, book, portion + power, ect. ect.Does this not sound like a description of the (roo'-âkh hä kō'-dĕsh) “The HolySpirit”?B'ShemYHVHSorry I could not get you…

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,22:03)Hi brother Ed,It was a prophecy about king of Tyre but no fallen angel called Lucifer as imagined by Christianity. Again the word 'satan' an adversary is a general title which could be given to an angel, God or man as per Hebrew Bible. There is no original sin involved in this prophecy as you claim. This is nothing…[Read more]

I mean 'ha dabar'.

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,19:08)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,17:50)Instead you explain us what you believe on this Original sin brother Ed.Hi Adam,Original sin: The rebellion of Lucifer, the anointed cherub that covereth, cast out of the mountain of God!MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.…[Read more]

So you say that 'Davar' ('word') as the impersonal expression of God? But how can you equate it with another aspect of God called the Holy Spirit?

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,17:30)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,15:05)Hi brother Ed,If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit…[Read more]

Instead you explain us what you believe on this Original sin brother Ed.

Quote (georg @ Nov. 10 2009,12:18)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 10 2009,12:43)Please note that at the time of the birth of Christ whom is God for those who believe such slander that there were calenders and yet in all 4 gospels this was left as unimportant therefore Christmas is also unimportant.Those who wish to worship those who were born should…[Read more]

Hi brother Ed,If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit being the father of Jesus?Peace to youAdam

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 16 2011,03:05)Adam……Right scripture say in the beginning was the word and the word was with GOD and the word WAS GOD.  Another words GOD and His words are one and the Same being.But IRENE say in the beginning was Jesus and the Jesus was with GOD and the JESUS was GOD, out of one side of her mouth, then say O by the…[Read more]