gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 10 2009,17:43)Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 09 2009,21:06)The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled — neither during Jesus' time nor since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Hi Catholic Apologist,Thanks for taking pains to answer my Jewish objections. But the reasons/arguments you brought forth are all Christian reasons and are often biased by the Christian/Hellenistic writers of N.T. No learned Jew agree with such interpretations. NT writers developed life history of Jesus from the Jewish scriptures as if he has…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Thanks for such agreement. But but my plea is to read the bible with jewish eyes than with helenistic Christian eyes.
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Why Can't Jews Be For Jesus?——————————————————————————–from http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/17-03.html and http://www.aish.com/jewishi….sus.asp The question above is a typical one asked by Christian Missionaries. The answer is easy, if one understands Jewish beliefs. Jews do not…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Yes brother I believe that God raised him from the dead. But I don't believe a lot of things what majority Christians believe like Virgin Birth, bodily(physical body with wounds) resurrection, Trinity, triune God, pre-existence of Jesus, divinity of Jesus etc.
gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
The virgin birth of Jesus: Fact or fable?Sponsored link: http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b.htmConflicting quotations showing the diversity of beliefs about the virgin birth: “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
The So-called “Virgin Birth” ——————————————————————————–Christians have always argued for Jesus' virgin birth, but also argue he was descended from David. Nevertheless, this overlooks that if virgin born, Jesus' 'father' Joseph, albeit descended from David, would have had no connection with his…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Gene @ Oct. 07 2009,16:48)CA……….And you TRINITARIAN HERETICS SHALL BE SOUNDLY DEFEATED WHEN JESUS RETURNS ALSO. 2 Th 2. The LIE will no longer be taught, because Jesus will destory it by His own Mouth at his return. Turning Jesus into (the man of Sin) by your false trinitarian teachings of Him being a GOD, when He said (“for thou…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Here are some of the points which demonstrate the blatant discrepancies and inconsistancies in the Missionaries' arguments in favor of Jesus. The Jewish Messiah is to be a mortal human being born to two mortal parents. He is neither to be a god, nor a man born of supernatural or virgin birth. There is nothing in the Bible that states that the…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Requirements of Jewish Messiah:The Hebrew word “moshiach” means annointed one. There have been many moshiachs throughout Jewish history. Every Jewish king and priest was a moshiach. There was even a non-Jewish moshiach (King Cyrus who permitted the rebuilding of the Temple). The Jewish Messiah will be a man and not a demi-god. He will come once…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2009,17:04)To all,I believe I am mistaken about that prophecy since Psalms 109 appears to be the bases of my memory and I now believe it disagrees with what I remember.That is honest confession.
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Hi brother Const.,That is not the answer you give to a Jew. Infact the verses quoted by you on endless genealogies were also quoted by a Jew as per my first post. Gospel writers like Matthew and Luke also used such genealogies to prove Jesus as the Jewish Messiah. But they often lack evidence in the Jewish scriptures. so blame them if you would…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 08 2009,19:25)Well actually, no offense, but I do not see anywhere I need to explain anywhere or anything to a Jew or anyone else for the matter.Hi brother Const.,That is a suicide on the part of any religious person. That proves the words of Karl Marx on religion being the Opium.
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
yes brother Nick,God is the one who convinces us. But are we to be reasonable in our arguments?
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Hi brother Nick,Yes Jesus is the son of david. But we have to explain to a Jew how he is ? Our N.T doesn't give proper explanation and often self controdictory. Even as a Christian I am often fed up with reconcilling these inconsistent N.T claims.
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2009,22:48)Do you know of a descendant of Solomon who currently sits on the throne of David because I know that a descendant of Nathan does?Hi brother Kerwin,What is this statement ?You seem to claim more than what our Bible doesn't claim. Here is how a Jew negates the Christian's explanation on Solomon being cut off fom…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Hi brother Kerwin,I appreciate your response. Can you please tell me which O.T scripture back the view of Luke that (Christ)Messiah would come through Nathan son of David?
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 06 2009,21:26)Mattherws account:Matthew's genealogy traces the ancestors of Joseph, the legal father of Jesus. Abraham to David:Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Perez, Hezron, Ram, Amminadab, Nashon, Salmon, Boaz, Obed, Jesse, David,David to Captivity:David, Solomon, Rehoboam, Rehoboam, Abijah, Asa, Jehoshaphat, Joram,…[Read more]
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Which scriptures brother Nick?Whether Christian or Jewish?
gollamudi replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Here is another argument of a JewJesus' genealogy, as we have it in the Christian Scriptures, does not allow him to be the Messiah:1) If the virgin birth is true (which is highly unlikely since it goes against the grain of supporting Jesus’ messianic claim) then Jesus cannot be the Messiah. 2) If you trace Jesus' line through Joseph (by which y…[Read more]
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