Thanks brother Kerwin.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2011,15:12)Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 08 2011,11:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2011,14:55)MIke…………..Wrong, Jesus was a son of ADAM and as i recall he did not sin, But see how your confusion causes you not to even believe Jesus was the Son of Adam and Yet without sin. Mike it say sin entered into the WORLD through…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 09 2011,09:31)Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 08 2011,15:48)The series of verses you quoted to support Jesus' preexistence are purely the interpretations of NT writers out of their Christological terminology but they are not supported by any of the scriptures in Hebrew Bible.Hi Adam, You're entitled to your beliefs as much as…[Read more]

Hi brother Ed,In other thread “Holy Spirit is the Word” you inferred that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Here is another proof for claiming Jesus is God from your earlier post in this thread; Jesus Christ = The TestatorWhat does it mean? The Testator or Covenant maker was none but God Himself.This is the reason why I asked you the earlier…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2011,16:12)Adam,Where is it written that “”he was found in the likeness of our sinful flesh””?I am sorry it can be read as “he was sent in the likeness of our sinful flesh” you can find it in Rom 8:3.Thanks and peace to you

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2011,14:55)MIke…………..Wrong, Jesus was a son of ADAM and as i recall he did not sin, But see how your confusion causes you not to even believe Jesus was the Son of Adam and Yet without sin. Mike it say sin entered into the WORLD through ADAM, it does not say we inherited any sin from ADAM, that is you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2011,12:14)Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 07 2011,15:39)Hi brother Ed,So you mean Jesus is God Himself?Hi Adam,Why do you say that?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPlease refer your earlier post in which you stated that Jesus=Holy Spirit where Holy Spirit=God Himself. Also the Covenant maker was God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2011,13:20)Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 07 2011,20:10)The problem with Phil 2 is Paul was nowhere near this so called preexistence' divinity of Jesus. Hi Adam,What if we add in a couple other things Paul said about it?Romans 1:3 NIVregarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,Romans 8:3 NIVFor what…[Read more]

Good thoughts brother Gene. The problem with Phil 2 is Paul was nowhere near this so called preexistence' divinity of Jesus. In fact he was talking about Jesus' human example than that of preexisting God-man. Brother Mike talks about so called gods which Paul quoted for proving that there is no other God but God the Father even Jesus who is called…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 07 2011,16:27)Adam………..When God made a Covenant with Abraham as i recall he had him kill a animal and separate its parts in tow two lines and he walked up and down between those parts and said this blood was the sign that sealed  the covenant he made with Abraham. Now my point is this,  God can make a covenant w…[Read more]

Hi brother Ed,So you mean Jesus is God Himself?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2011,08:03)Hi Gene,Nothing you posted answers my point that I just restated to Marty.  Nor does it answer Irene's point about first “emptying himself” and THEN “being made as a human being”.You post scriptural truths that none of us have ever disagreed with, but you post them in such a way that it seems as if you're…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2011,01:01)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 30 2011,00:19)Hi brother Kerwin, Tim and Georg,I appreciate your wonderful responses on this thread. In fact as a Christian I can understand all your logics on Vicarious atonement of Jesus. But I am not fully convinced on these arguments with reference to Jewish views on Original sin and Sin…[Read more]

Hi brother Kerwin, Tim and Georg,I appreciate your wonderful responses on this thread. In fact as a Christian I can understand all your logics on Vicarious atonement of Jesus. But I am not fully convinced on these arguments with reference to Jewish views on Original sin and Sin atonement. I liked the views of brothers Kerwin and Tim on Jesus'…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 28 2011,07:41)Adam,About the date of the Messiah’s return to this world I only know that Jesus himself did and may still not know.  So I find it hard to believe that after stating that he would turn around and say something that proved he did know.  I admit though those ignorant and corrupt men misinterpret scriptures.  Th…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Jan. 28 2011,05:24)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 26 2011,03:18)Hi brother Theodorej,Thanks for your response on my post above. So you believe that Jesus' death changed every thing on this earth. But this supreme sacrifice was not mentioned in Hebrew Bible for Messiah. He will be a warrior and political leader who will establish God's…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2011,21:24)Adam,You wrote:Quote He will be a warrior and political leader who will establish God's kingdom on earth.Jesus is a warrior and political leader as scripture testifies.  Have you not read that he was appointed to the political and warrior position of King?    David was also a warrior king though his enemies we…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2011,21:33)Adam,I was not intentionally explaining Jesus’ death as atonement as though he does pay the wages of our sins and that is why it is foretold that “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities”, Isaiah 53:5.  In addition it is self evident that by choosing to suffer death he did cl…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 28 2011,01:42)To All………..The Big Question regarding Preexistence is this, What Profit would it be to GOD or Man, if God MORPHED a past existing BRING OF ANY KIND and passed him off as a human being, that would be deceptive on GOD'S Part and would prove nothing to man kind as regarding a Perfect Human Being if in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2011,13:13)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 25 2011,14:25)What Matt 22 says about Jews is the version of the Greek (Hellenistic) Christian writer. Gospels always distorted the version of Jews.Hi Adam,I thought Matthew (Levi) was a Jew.  And as I understand it, there is much evidence to support that his gospel was originally…[Read more]