Mike……..Would you erase all the posts between me an Terricca, here and get back to the Last post i posted to you, that all this guy does is disrupts our discussions to through it of track. I want to continue where i last dialogue with you and T8.peace and love……………………….gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,08:28)Agreed.  But having glory RESERVED for us is NOT the same thing as us HAVING that glory before the world began. We can't ask God to give us the glory WE WERE HAVING BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN – because none of us were actually HAVING that glory BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.Mike…….Why would it not be the same thing…[Read more]

Journey………Don't think Jerusalem was the original Garden of Eden, because the rivers that went out from it are not there they are in Iraq , Baghdad, most likely.  or whee ancient Babylon was located. But i do agree with you that Ezekiel is referring to the coming Kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saints, and has not taken place yet. In fact…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,03:02)Well, there ya go.  You know what happens when you “ASSUME”, right?  You sometimes make an ASS out of U and ME.  Kwerwin…….And this is coming from a person that “ASSUMES” God created everything through Jesus , but can produce no one scripture that shows us any activity of Jesus before his berth on the ea…[Read more]

To All………Caution, When we try to apply something Spiritual to something Physical we can get into all kinds of confusions, Take the Term Light for instance, It in a Physical sense, comes from the sun and lightens the earth, allowing us all to have “PHYSICAL” awareness of things, but if it is used in a “spiritual” sense, it enlightens our…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,02:41)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 23 2013,19:39)That he is not the creator is precisely my point.Neither I nor Pierre have ever claimed that Jesus created a single thing, Marty.So why are you arguing against a point we've never made in the first place?Mike……..Well then, what exactly did Jesus do in the creative…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2013,04:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2013,22:48)Terricca…………If you don't understand that the word GOD is a relationship, then it doesn't matter what language you use you still have no idea what you are talking about> IMO, Now please let Mike answer my post and butt out please. All you do is just throw out…[Read more]

Terricca……….Marty is right , you need to go and make a word study on the word Through and see how many different ways it is used it is used in our scriptures, I gave Mike a complete list once of all the different ways, several years ago, But go ahead and do your own word study and then maybe you can get the true understand you need.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 24 2013,10:25)(Hint:  There are two pre-14th century mss that have those words as a MARGINAL NOTE – but not as a part of the words John wrote.  What does that tell you?  That maybe a scribe in the 14th century took that MARGINAL NOTE, and inserted it into the actual Greek text, making it seem like John had originally wr…[Read more]

Journey….You are right, the enemies of God do not want John 5:7 to be in scriptures, because it show that the FATHER and the WORD, and Holy Ghost (spirit)   “ARE” ONE they all are one being, our GOD. Notice it says in verse, (7) “ARE” ONE, but in verse (8) it says “AGREE IN” ONE”, being, that is, and that being is the flesh man Jesus Christ…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 24 2013,10:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 21 2013,09:48)Mike……..So i can also say the Glory I had with the Father before the world began right?You could only say it if you actually HAD glory before the world began, Gene.  Did you?Also, don't forget that it is literally, “the glory I WAS HAVING”.But……..Mike we do…[Read more]

Wakerup……… I can not accept anyone claiming to be God's words, no more then I can accept any being your words. I full well know Jesus spoke GOD”S words to Us, as he was a spokesman for GOD, but remember Jesus himself said, “the words I am telling you are “NOT” my Words, but the word of Him who sent me”, Now consider if the words were…[Read more]

Jammin……..First mistake you are making is using the NLV as you source text. Go and Get a KJV , the NLV,is a Paraphrased bible, it is not even close to the original writing any true scholar will tell you that. They change and add so many scriptures it is not even funny.  No true seeker of the truth of scriptures would ever us it for their…[Read more]

Wakeup………Yes in the “IMAGE” of God made He them, male and female,  but being “MADE” and Image, is to reflect something, It does not mean being made a GOD, An image is much Like when you look in a mirror and see an “image” of yourself, why ? because you are being reflected in it, We to, reflect the LORD, our GOD in many ways, we have been…[Read more]

Terricca…………If you don't understand that the word GOD is a relationship, then it doesn't matter what language you use you still have no idea what you are talking about> IMO, Now please let Mike answer my post and butt out please. All you do is just throw out flack to divert and confuse the Posts, we are discussing. It seem to be above you…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 22 2013,03:28)GeneIm not surprised if you cant accept jn 1:1 refers to christ as the Word. Do i have to read king gene version?lolJammin………Here is on for you to twist, There are Three that bear witness in heaven , God the Father , the “WORD” and the Holy Spirit, and these three “ARE” ONE. But you boy say they are not…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2013,08:00)1 John 5:7   For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. THE FATHER;THE WORD OF GOD;AND THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH.1 John 5:8   And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. T…[Read more]

Terricca……….God and read the General Scholuim , written by Sir Issac Newton , What i am saying totally agrees with Him. Also go and read what Jeff Beanner say that the original Hebrew word God meant in the original Pictorial language of the Hebrews. If the word God is not a relational word then why do we say our God, or their God , or the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2013,10:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2013,10:00)Now, poor old John was so stupid he didn't know he should have written the word Jesus there  (a Person) instead of Just “word” (intelligent utterance), So along comes  Jammin, and Mike, and other Trinitarians and Preexistence's and Just straighten out  poor old st…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2013,11:41)Doesn't really matter though, because like I said, even if you keep it as, “the glory I HAD”, it still speaks of JESUS as the one who actually HAD that glory before the world began.Mike…….Do you honestly believe Jesus has “NOW” the “SAME” Glory and Power Had before his, berth, death and Resurrection, So…[Read more]