Kerwin ……….Let get back to the main subject her it is enough following they guys in their rabbit holes that go no where. So now lets get back to the main topic , Jesus came in the flesh and/ or was changed in the flesh I have yet to see “ANY” PROOF Jesus was ever “CHANGED into a FLESH PERSON. If any on has any please present it.  Or we…[Read more]

Marty……….I have no problem with that , It is Jesus who is to have that “NAME” on Him. why because he will be “REPRESENTING” and “SPEAKING” GOD'S the FATHERS words to us. But that in no way “MAKES” HIM THOSE word himself Being a Representative is far from being the original thing Wakeup. What some do is try to make the Representative, the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,08:55)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:51)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:49)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:31)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:28)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:38)wQuote You worship God seperate from Jesus.i do not worship  Jesus Christ  I honor him and give him my highest respect  ,by li…[Read more]

And we are being created by God through Jesus the new creation of God, the last Adam.  He is before all things because it is through him that God's plan for the worlds and for humanity would be fulfilled.  That every thing that God created was done through him means that “he is the ground reason for all that God created.”Here are some scriptures f…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 04 2014,12:04)Hi Mike:In response to your long post above, I would say nice try, Mike, but no, he did not say:Quote So John 17:5 tells us that Jesus indeed HAD glory before the world began, and asked to be glorified again with that same gloryThere is that seemingly insignificant little word “again” that you are trying to force…[Read more]

To All……….Scripture says, Christ was the Rock that followed the children of Israel in the wilderness. Now while word Christ, can be taken as the Person Jesus, it should be taken as the ANOINTING SPIRIT of God, That spirit was on Moses, and the seventy elders, and Joshua and Aron the high Priest, God does all thing through his ANOINTING…[Read more]

Mike you said….> What I'm saying is that I've got better things to do than keep posting stuff for you that you only end up ignoring.  And then, two pages later, you ask me the same stupid crap I ALREADY ANSWERED.  It's very irritating to me, so please stop doing it.)2.  Your words about “PROPHETIC” and what not must have flew “over my head” aft…[Read more]

Wakeup ………So are you deny he was a MAN Then?,  please clarify. Now remember if you agree he was a “MAN” then he had to come from Mankind, right?. Another point is if he had no beginning or ending of Day's, then he would have to be GOD himself Right. Because God is the only one, who i believe scripture says, has no beginning or ending of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,05:01)A question for GeneB.Please clarify.Who was melchisedek?Was he not a living being without beginning of life and no end of life?Was he not the king of salem(peace),and righteousness?The high priest for ever?wakeup.Wakeup…….First of all Melchisedek…….is not Jesus and His genealogy was not known, nor listed…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2014,03:24)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2013,09:50)Just as the Glory Jesus' was about receive was Prophesied for him, and he was asking for it. See what I mean?  Jesus did NOT say, “Give me the glory that was prophesied for me to someday receive”.  See how you have to TWIST the words “I HAD”, in order to “trick” the s…[Read more]

Mike…….. So in your system of reasoning You actually believe Jesus did not know the Glory laid down for him, written clearly in scriptures right?,  How dumb is that Mike ?. Well tell us then. If I WAS TO HAVE something, by way of PROPHESY, then WHO was I EVER “HAVING” or “HAD” it WITH before it ever HAPPENED, NOT MYSELF, that is for sure , it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,04:35)So in your understanding, Jesus could have spoken on earth about the time in the past when he had a sword coming out of his mouth and defeated death…….. all because GOD knew beforehand that would eventually happen?Gene, what if it is your destiny to become Jesus' right hand man in that battle against…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,11:51)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,14:23)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,07:35)KTAKE A LOT OF EXPLANATION TO MAKE A TRUTH OF GOD FALSE IS N IT T,The explanation is only for those who choose not to believe.  Yep.  The long and extravagant explanations are for those who choose not to believe the most sensible and l…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,02:52)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2013,08:23)Mike…….Come on, that is exactly what you are saying , You believe Jesus was asking for that Glory that he already was having, as a preexistence Sentinel being returned to him. So why do you say “not exactly” then.I believe I explained that, Gene.  Jesus was…[Read more]

Wakeup………Can we also say King Cyrus had the Glory given him with God before his berth on this earth, seeing He was promised by God to come into existence 200 years before he was born as His servant, Did he also preexist? No only in the Planned will of God , the same thing applies to Jesus a Son of MAN, who was prophesied to come into…[Read more]

Mike……….God alone started all creation of every kind in existence, He made it able to reproduce it self and fill the complete earth. The very word create is not a Hebrew word at all, no such word exists in the original language, the word we use as create, is actually (fattening), God fattened the earth as those things he put seed in,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2013,13:59)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 28 2013,17:52)And so, Mike, you say:Quote That means he WAS HAVING that glory before the world began.And the fact that he uses the Greek word “para” in parallel is even more telling.He is asking to be glorified IN GOD'S PRESENCE (para) with the glory he had IN GOD'S PRESENCE (para) before…[Read more]

Kerwin ………..Good example brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………….gene

Mike………. Why not ignore them, then,  if you have no idea what they are actually saying, and to say that is not “SPECULATION” is simply untrue, if you ask me. When you are not sure of something and draw some conclusion on it, that is a Speculating Mike.What i meant by those  words, was we know what part other played in our existence , for i…[Read more]

Mike ……..Every thing God created something Though we know the activity involved by the thing used , But you admit there is NO proven activity known, that Jesus had anything to do with the creation process on earth, so you at best are speculating Mike. I as well as Marty have shown you scriptures where God himself said He “ALONE” and “BY…[Read more]