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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…….You are absolutely right brother, IMO
peace and love to you and your. ………………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Nick……Is Jesus a witness? Is he Comming back as a son of man? According to him he is, Will he sit on the throne of his father David?, did the the angel say he would return the same way he went up into heaven,?, is there one scripture that say Jesus lost his body he was raised with? No, not even one, just your suppositions that you present,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
T8……..JESUS IS EXACTLY LIKE WE ARE IN EVER WAY, he does have a spirit, separate from God’s Spirit, God who is spirit came and dwelled in his flesh (temple) with him. God who is spirit spoke through the mouth of Jesus, sometimes in first person, as when he (God) said, destroy this temple and in three days I (God) will raise it (the temple body)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 10 years, 8 months ago
T8…..the above should have read, “as a result, they willed to disobeyed God”.
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Nick…….You are the one stumbling over linguistics here, not able to understand what Paul actually is saying, not I . Your last post even proves that, ” that which you sow does not come to life, “UNLESS” “IT” DIES. NOW ASK YOURSELF WHAT COMES BACK TO LIFE “THAT WHICH DIES”, GET IT? NOT SOMETHING ELSE COMES TO LIFE BUT THAT WHICH “DIES”.
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Nick…….I also believe Jesus was changed from mortal to immortal, as we are to be. But that does not mean the exact bodies we now have are not themselves changed to that state after they are resurected, from the grave. There would be no point for PAUL TO SAY “IT”,meaning our present bodies are sown in weakness and “IT” MEANING THE SAME BODY IS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
To all……To doubt Jesus has a flesh body that he was raised with, can amount to saying, the resurection was a hocks, that GOD the Father and Jesus was being deceptive about the resurection of Jesus with a flesh and bone body. Some do not believe our bodies can, with God’s help, perform great and powerful feats, even though scripture is full…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 10 years, 8 months ago
T8……in you explanation about Adam and Eve having a free will, you leave off that they were “influenced” to disobey GOD” “commandment” to them to not eat of the tree. He never said it was up to them to decide if they would or not eat of it, they through the thoughts put in their minds by Satan “CAUSED” THEM TO DSIRE IT AND AS A REST TO WILL TO…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 10 years, 8 months ago
T8……in you explanation about Adam and Eve having a free will, you leave off that they were “influenced” to disobey GOD” “commandment” to them to not eat of the tree. He never said it was up to them to decide if they would or not eat of it, they through the thoughts put in their minds by Satan “CAUSED” THEM TO DSIRE IT AND AS A REST TO WILL TO…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
T8…….That commit of yours, “the best proof of God is a relationship with him”, is the most truthfull thing I have ever heard you say here. Without that proof, you can’t have personal “REAL” faith, only the suppositions from men who proclaim their faith. That is why it says, “have you faith?, have it unto yourself.”
Peace and love to you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
T8…….That commit of yours, “the best proof of God is a relationship with him”, is the most truthfull thing I have ever heard you say here. Without that proof, you can’t have personal “REAL” faith, only suppositions from men. That is why it says, “have you faith?, have it unto yourself.”
Peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Nick…….It should be your concern because that is what your whole argument is all about. The word spiritual does not mean a “Spirit” body. Because no such “BODY” EXISTS. Spirits live “IN” bodies. PAUL was speaking of a spiritually driven body. Our bodies will be “resurrected” back to life just as PAUL SAID the “IT” that was sown, WOULD BE , and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Alpha & Omega, First & Last – Jesus & God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
Brian…….God and his word are one and the same thing, God is spirit, so is his word ,Jesus told us, just as you can not be separated from you words neither can The LORD OUR GOD, God being spirit was in Jesus, speaking through him to us. Remember Jesus said that the Father was “in” him, now how was he in him?, by the fact God is spirit and as…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 10 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…….i agree with that , it is something internal that leads to the choices we make and also forms our wills, so then the choice is driven right? And if the will is a result of that driven thing, then that driven then causes us to will, so then the will itself is indeed captivated by what’s driving it correct?
Peace and love to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 10 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……I have no problem with what you have said aboutt b e will being driven, it only proves my piint.
Peace and love to you and yours……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
Nick……sorry what you believe, but if anyone is intellegent it surly is God, I am not saying that is ALL God is, but to think spirits are not intellegent and transmit their intellects to us is a complete denial of what scripture shows spirits as,spirits give us our cognativity and if that is not transferring intellects, I don’t know what is.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Nick…….has nothing to do with me being great then Paul, it has to do with you not understanding what Paul actually.
Your perverted teachings do not back what Paul said at all. I think it is you who thinks you know more the Paul, and that is obviously proven by you not answering the simple question I ask you about what was the “IT” PAUL WAS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 10 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…….Nick does not understand what a spritual body means , he leans toward thinking they are “SPIRIT BODIES”, BUT CANNOT PRODUCE A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS A SPIRIT IS A BODY OF ANY KIND.
Peace and love to you and yours………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic What does it mean ;this is the verdict,? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
Terricca…….Our wills have liberty to exercise itself, the way it wants to. But what is driving that will is the cause and that will is hardly free ITSELF.
Peace and love to you and yours………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic What does it mean ;this is the verdict,? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
Terricca…….it is not written, “shall not” , it is “should not” there is a difference.
Scripture also say God is not willing that even the evil should parish, but that all would come to repentence.
EZK33:11… SAY UNTO THEM, AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, I HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED, BUT THAT THE WICKED TURN FROM HIS WAY AND…[Read more]
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