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    Nick…..ANOTHER POINT, Jesus told us not to fear those who can kill the body, and cando nothingelse after that, but to fear him whocan destory “BOTH” BODY AND SOUL IN HELL. Why does he mention Body, if our bodies are not needed?

    Face it Nick you are as wrongas you could be on this.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    Nick…..FLESH IS REGENERATIVE, SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SHOWS THAT. Fact is flesh has never died “out” sense it’s first creation. Jesus sure didn’t think his flesh was worthless when he cried out “MY GOD, MY GOD , HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME.”, AND HE WAS RESURECTED WITH HIS SAME FLESH BODY, now wasn’t he? Why should we look for anything any different? We…[Read more]

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    Nick…..FLESH IS REGENERATIVE, SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SHOWS THAT. Fact is flesh has never died “out” sense it’s first creation. Jesus sure didn’t think his flesh was worthless when he cried out “MY GOD, MY GOD , HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME.”, AND HE WAS RESURECTED WITH HIS SAME FLESH BODY, now wasn’t he? Why should we look for anything any different? We…[Read more]

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    Nick……Your rendition about our bodies being done away with is completely wrong, as PAUL EXPLAIND ,”we are looking for the resurection, wnich will wittiness the REDEMPTION OF “OUR” BODIES”. What BODIES?, “OUR” BODIES, the our bodies are the bodies we now have. Nothing difficult about it, while bodies are not spirits, you still can not…[Read more]

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    Nick…..The meek shall inherit the earth, we are told, not drift around in dry places looking for rest as cast out spurits do. Paul clearly said “that we hope for the “resurection” that will wittiness the redemption of “OUR BODIES”.” THE OUR THERE IS TALKING ABOUT OUR PRESENT MORTAL BODIES. What part 9fwhat Paul clearly saidyou can’t ubderstand.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    T8……It’s time for you to understand you have been mislead by SATAN false teachings of Jesus’ preexistence, just as billions of people have, Satan wants all humans to think Jesus was not exactly like them, but was different then we are, it is all part of his lie in making JESUS appear different then we are. He hates all humanity because God has…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    T8……It’s time for you to understand you have been mislead by SATAN false teachings of Jesus’ preexistence, just as billions of people have, Satan wants all humans to think Jesus was not exactly like them, but was different then we are, it is all part of his lie in making JESUS appear different then we are. He hates all humanity because God has…[Read more]

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    Nick…..Jesus’ bod had nothing to do with the resuction of Jonah’s body as far as bodies go but had to do withthe time he would be in the grave only. You would be better of not adding your own interputions to what scripture says. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    Nick…..Your assumptions do not equal what scripture says, no where does scripture say Jesus was changed into something else after his asention, if that is so THEN PRODUCE the scriptures to show it. kerwin is right it is the old mortal body that must “put on” imortality, not a different body, that must put on imortality but this one must, just…[Read more]

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    T8……Good post brother, everyone who does not love, does not know God. Our word describe the spirits working in us, they produce the fruit, and the fruit of love is expressed by those who have it in them. “A GOOD TREE CANNOT BRING FORTH EVIL FRUIT, NEITHER CAN A CORRUPT TREE BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT, Wherefore by their fruits you shall know…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……you have it right brother, our mortal bodies will be what is resurected, which means the same DNA will be regenerated.

    This is proven by the words Paul used “IT IS RAISED”. The it there is the “mortal” body that died. But this physical body will be sustained eternally by the spirit of the living GOD. IMO

    peace and love to you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    T8……SAYING I AM , IS NOT SAYING I EXISTED AS A LIVING BEING before Abraham, You are adding that to the text. You can produce one scripture where Jesus hims ever said he existed before his berth on this earth. You can only force the text to say what in fact it does not “specifically” say. Your speculating about a subject that if it were true…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    T8…….Jesus was not talking about him existing as a living being before Abraham , he was talking bout his importance in the plan of God. That he was even mentioned befor Abraham existed. The Jews were trusting in their decendency from Abraham as the important reason they were connect to God. You as well as the Jews of his day, are miss…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    Nick…..I RECONIZED THAT OVER 40 years ago. YOUR NOT MY TEACHER SO QUIT TRYING TO BE. I wrote that specifically for t8, and who ever has ears to hear. I believe t8 is close to comming to the realation of the truth about when Jesus came into his existence, it will be a great break through not only for him personally, but fot this site.

    But as far…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    T8…..PAUL WAS TAKING in the past tense when Jesus (was) on this earth , he did not think to rob GOD BY Trying to make HIMSELF EQUAL WITH GOD. But instead took on the form of a servant by denying his own will, and doing the will of GOD THE FATHER. That was Pauls point, he was trying to show us how to be like Jesus by humbling ourselves as Jesus…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……TRUE, Good post brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    Nick…..AND “YOUR” DEDUCTIONS ARE OF GOD ? WHILE OURS AND EVERYONE ELSES ARE NOT? interesting.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    JFS…..welcome to the site, look non of us can help what we are born into, but as God shows us the truth about things and as we accept those truth he gives us, we need to adjust our lives, there are parts of CHRISTMAS, that are pure pagan in orign, but there are parts that talk about the berth of our lord Jesus and give some attention to him as…[Read more]

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    Nick, SO NOW YOUR PRECHING A KINGDOM OF WATER? Tell us how that exactly works, or is that just another of “your” personal delusions?
    And while you are at it give us your renditions of exactly what a spirit is, if intellegence. You rattle a lot but have produced not a single explantion of what spirits are. For a man who has no knowledge about…[Read more]

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    Kerwin….. Your dialog with with Nick is futile , he believes he is a guide to the blind, an instructor to the foolish, he reminds me of wht Paul was sayi gaboutthe JEWS, Rom 2: 16-21

    KERWIN….I also believe the breathe of life includes the spirit (intellect) from God that enlightens “every” man comming into this earth, and IF God were to…[Read more]

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