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    Marty….After the thousand years are finished Satan, is released on the earth again and goes out and decieves the nation which ARE IN THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, GOD AND MAGOG……notice Marty, those nation are “existing” at that time, it is not talking about the second resurection and the judgement of those who have previously died before…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….please tell us where, what i have said does not agree with scriptures, give us your understanding of 2Ths2.. i and am sure other eagerly await you explanation of what is written there. Saying it does not agree without any definite explanation on show your lack of any understanding of what i written there. Don’t make a blanket statement…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    EDJ….you brought up the scripture that shows the word freewill, but what you may not understand, is that scripture has nothing to do with the WILL ITSELS, it has to do with a person volunteering to do something, but it does not address the reason why he volunteered. That is what made up his “will” to volunteer. I have said all along that i was…[Read more]

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    Princess…..Good points, but when a person criticises what a another says ON A SUBJECT, and offeres not explanation why or what the person has said that he or she find fault with, that to me shows the corrupt nature of that person. It’s fine to disagree with what a person has posted, but at least have the decency to explain and give the person…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…. so i will ask you again, does what i have said in SATAN’S DOCTRINE RESONATE WITH S RIPTURIAL TRUTH.? YES OR NO

    Peace and love to you and yours ………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….who finds them UNSPRITUAL, ARE YOU OUR MEASURING STICK AS TO WHAT IS SPRITUAL OR NOT HERE? I do not take any commit here as personally, except when a person like you, makes it personal by thinking you have a right to say what a person says is spritual or not, are we to think you are able to tell us this? Have you replaced GOD THE…[Read more]

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    Nick….. Again with the character slam, You have no idea, of what effort i have made, no not even a clue of how many hours and years of studing the scriptures and different bibles and Greek interlieaners i have poured over the years i have been studing .

    But the garbage that comes out of your mouth sure does give the Spirit you are from…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….Are you open to truth? Are you teachable? You seem more worried about others then yourself. Can you tell us, IN WHAT WAY, does what you have said fit others and not you?

    peace and love to you and yours ……..gene

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    Nick….i see no one here going around slamming peoples character but you. Look no one has ALL THE TRUTH, Paul said we see in PART, as looking through an obscured glass. Come on if you see something wrong with what one of us say, then be specific to the point of what was said, and if you disagree then show, how you see it, you may be right and the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….That is assuming he is not decieved. But what if he speaks from his own deceptions. Then would you say he is still a untruthful person, even if it is from his decieved mind? Because, WHILE IT MAY TRUE TO HIM, that still does not make it the truth of God, now does it? Nor does that make him a LIAR either.

    But who are you to go around…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    T8…..NICK does not understand that it is not about the man, but about the truth. He is either jealous or has another problem, with human beings, but fails to see he is nothing but a human being himself. He attacks the the person character, with the Spirit of the accuser.

    peace and love to you and yours ……….gene

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    Nick….It is not about me, it is about what i have written on this subject, i have shared what i believe i have been given, which should cause rejoicing in all those who truly love the truth. Not giving me any glory or praise i could care less about that, it should be only about the truth , GOD KNOWS MY HEART and YOURS, let him JUDGE.…[Read more]

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    Princess….I offer Nick to disprove what I have written on this subject, seeing he is a skeptic, but he give nothing, on the subject, but turns and attacks my person and character, trying to descredit me and my given understanding of this subject. He serves only one purpose here and that is to cause “doubtful disputations”. What I have posted on…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin…..I agree with that assessment on you post, but with that being said, it still does not make it right because of peoples wrong or misunderstood views. I have said over an over and over i was not talking about thefact that we do have liberty to excercise our WILL FREELY, MY POINT is dealining with the actual will it self as of “itsel”…[Read more]

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    Nick….please do search scriptures, we should all do that, that is why i know somethings you say are not in line with scriptures. I could make a list for you if you like? But tell us, do you find what i have said on this subject inline with the scriptures or not ? Or is it just the spirit that works in you, still trying to give berth to…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    Princess…. i believe we are born with that capacity to will, but as to the moment that takes place i do not know, in fact it may be slowely introduced into our thinking process over time. I really don’t know.

    peace and love to you and yours…….gene

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    Princess…..indeed if everyone spoke the same thing it would make unity much simpler. But truth is truth no matter who say it. Problem here is some think if the truth is spoken by someone that that person who posts it is trying to boast their ouwn image here, and that is sad that a person who suposely “loves” truth would even think such a thing.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    Marty…..Remember i never said we do not have freedom to excercise our will’s now have i? I am speaking about how the will “ITSELF” functions and there is “nothing” free about it. You are hanging on to the idea about the freedom to excercise that captivated will, that has nothing to do with the will, “ITSELF” NOR HOW IT “ITSELF” IS CONTROLED…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    Marty….ALL YOUR CHOICES ARE “INFLUENCED” CHOUCES NOTHING “FREE” ABOUT IT. Cant you see if that he whole idea of having God to be in us is to guide our will to do his will. Man has shown through out history he is incapiable of sustaining “himself” by doing his own will to walk inthe ways of God. This is a major proof written in all human…[Read more]

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    Princess….I am not sure i follow what you are getting at sis.

    peace and love to you and yours ……..gene

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