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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
kerwin….The apostle PAUL in, 2Ths2, was not talking to or about the whole world as many mistakingly believe, he was addressing the CHURCH itself, and what was going to take place in it. The mystery of iniquity was already beginning to form even in his day, within the Church of God itself, PAUL was not talking about the world, nether was JOHN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Miia……you have it right. the abomnation that makes desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet, has been fulfilled. JESUS was warning the deciples of the their impending situation. Then he went on to explain about what was going to take place at his return.
By the way the “powers of heaven”, are the gravitational pull between the planets that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Nick…. The pieces of the puzzle fits, he that has the eyes to see let him see.
peace and love to you and yours …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
EDj……To me it is clear that to see Jesus as a GOD, and worship him as such, is IDOLATRY, and breakes the commandmets of God, “YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ME”, AND God the Father said clearly there is No God besides me, he said he know none other God but him alone.
Now if we start to put the pieces together. it all fits,
Who is the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
AndrewAD…. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I WORSHIP MYSELF? I WORSHIP NO MAN AND THAT INCLUDES MEYSELF WHY INSULT ME IS IT because i don’t buy what you say? GOD the FATHER IS WHO YOU AND ALL SHOULD BE WORSHIPING AND OBEYING, JUST AS JESUS DID. JESUS IS THE EXAMPLE OF HOW TO WORSHIP AND OBEY GOD. HE NEVER TOLD US IS TO WORSHIP HIM, BUT TOLD US IT IS GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 4 months ago
AndrewAD….Phil 2:10-11…That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow , of thing in heaven, and things in earth, and under the earth; 11, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is lord, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER”.
SO, no matter how we honor Jesus Christ, it should always be, TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER. but never as…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
miia….ALSO, remember what the deciples ask him about, three things, when shall these things be (the destruction of the temple)? “and” what shall be the sign of his comming?, “and” of the end of the world? there are three destinct different questions ask there.
JESUS WAS ANSWERING THEM ALL. The first was the destruction of the temple which also…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 4 months ago
EDj…..i did the same thing years ago before RAY died. i had downloaded some of his sermons they were pretty much right on, me and him were in the same church many years ago. the WWCG, the ARMSTRONG bunch, he and i left that church about the same time for many of the same reasons even though we had never meant. he was high up in the organization…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Nick….THAT is taken from the “original” Greek text.
What i would like to know from you is this, CAN YOU SEE HOW BY ADDING THOSE WORDS COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THE MEANING OF THE TIME, THE TEXT WAS REFERING TO AN EMEDITATE EVENT, that was going to come on those people of that time.
JESUS WAS refering to a time in there near future, he was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 4 months ago
EDJ…..HAVE YOU READ THE MATERIAL on the myth of the “freewill” written by Ray Smith? whats your take on that?
Peace and love to you and yours ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 4 months ago
kerwin … The circumstance “is” the cause. ALL THE APOSTLES SAID THEY WOULD DIE RATHER THEN DENY JESUS, Mark 14:31… “But he spake the more vehemently, if i should die with you, I will not deny you in any way, likewise also said they ALL”.
Now that was what they “willed” to do, but when the circumstance changed, so do their wills, they chose…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 4 months ago
kerwin … The circumstance “is” the cause. ALL THE APOSTLES SAID THEY WOULD DIE RATHER THEN DENY JESUS, Mark 14:31… “But he spake the more vehemently, if i should die with you, I will not deny you in any way, likewise also said they ALL”.
Now that was theire “will” but when the circumstance changed, so do their wills, they chose to deny him,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
NICK…..GO and read the WESTCOTT & Hort GNT…..Literal Translation, and see for yourself. what thetranslators add did change the text IMO.
Peace and love to you and yours …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago
KERWIN….I HAS EVERY THING TO DO WITH IT, if Go is behind the choice then that choice is caused, AND IF IT IS”CAUSED” THEN IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A “FREE” choice now is it? remember we RE NOT talking about the liberty to excercise the will but what up the will, is influences so what the will itself decides is not free at all, but GOD does give…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
NICK…THE ONLY REASON I WROTE THAT TO EDJ, WAS TO SHOW HIM THAT Satan was a spirit that can be in anyone. i do not believe PETER IS SATAN, how do you get from my response to EDJ’S statement that i believe PETER WAS ACTUALLY Satan himself? GO back and reread it “exactly” as i wrote . i know full well that it was the spirit of the devil or satan…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago
TO ALL…..I HAVE a request to you all, please go to, Bible-truths .com then go to and cleck on The Myth of “freewill Exposed , and come back tell me what you all think. Ray Smith has done an excellent job of covering this myth of a “freewill”. IMO
peace and love to you all and yours ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
EDJ…..JESUS SAID PETER WAS SATAN. go figure, if you BELIEVE JESUS THEN SATAN IS PETER.
peace and love to you and yours……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
NICK…..It is perty much conferned by many scholars nearly all scholars i think, that those words were added to the original text to try to clearfy scriptures and in some cases they might, but in this case it dosen’t. IMO, NICK just type it in on your wed search, and check it out for yourself.
peace and love to you and yours ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
NICK…. all depends on what you understand right? GO back and reread it i tryed to clearify it more for you, and yes made more vague by what was added to the text. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 5 months ago
NICK…. all depends on what you understand right? GO back and reread it i tryed to clearify it more for you.
peace and love to you and yours…….gene
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