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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago
Danny Dabbs. ….Therein lies your problem you thinking it is refering to the man Jesus own spirit, but that is a wrong understanding of that scripture. How do we know that, because scripture says, this.
Rom 8:9-11, But you are not inthe flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF “GOD” DWELL “IN” YOU. NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago
946727…..Jesus told us that the Father was “IN” HIM, so how was he “IN” HIM? Jesus said that God was spirit, so the spirit who is God was “IN” HIM, and God And his Word are one, So the words of God “Are” Spirit and spoke through Jesus. But none of that made the man Jesus himself, the Word which is Spirit that spoke through him . Jesus is not the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca…..Why don’t you ever question your scriptural position? , those scriptures you hold to are not solid scriptures, because there improperly taken and contradict many, many other scriptures. They find there false meanings in the way translaters who were “trinitarians” translated them to best meet their own beliefs, like the word “before”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
DANNY DABBS. …..Start to see Jesus as a ordinary human being, just as you are ,and you also can be anointed with that same spirit that Jesus our brother has. Remember where it say, “UNTILL WE ALL COME TO THE MEASURE AND “FULL” STATURE OF “CHRIST” THAT IS TOSAY THE FULL STATURE OF THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD, the same as the “MAN” JESUS DID.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Danny Dabbs. …INDEED Jesus was the “anointed” one who came in the flesh, he was the prophesied MESSIAH OR HUMAN ANOINTED ONE FROM HUMANITY, WHO WAS A “FLESH” BORN HUMAN BEING whose actual Father was God himself who impreginated MARY supplying his male DNA IN HER WOMB.
Danny any teaching that moves Jesus form our exact human idenity is a false…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
T8….You could not be more wrong even if you tried. JESUS is the first born into the kingdom of God “from” all creation. You get it?, he was the “first” BORN, FROM all creation, if he preexisted he would not have been first “BORN” which means comming into existence through a “BERTH” process.
ANOTHER WORDS THROUGH THE WOMB OF A WOMEN, BECAUSE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
To all…..lets get back to the thread, first can some of you see that 2Ths2, is “NOT” dealing with the world as a whole , but the church itself and that “the man of sin”, mentioned there would be the product of the church and come from the “midest” of the church. It also is the working of Satan himself that produces that false “IMAGE” OF JESUS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago
Miia…..That is true no one has all the truth, we are a work in progress. We need to be more supportive and respect each others opinions. That doesn’t mean we have to completel agree with each other, but we can all work for unity of the faith. What i believe is most all of us are trying to work through scriptures that in most cases have been…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Kerwin….Terricca, leaves off the other part of that scripture and treats it as if it doesn’t exist. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, and Jesus while on the earth was also in heaven in the bosom of the FATHER, buy the Fathers Spirit that was in him, he was connected directly to God that is what the words, “IS” IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER”, means. What Pierre…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca….WHY DID YOU LEAVE OFF THE LAST PART OF John 3:13 ? Where it says “even the son of man which “IS” in heaven”, forcing text or leaving out some of the text to meet your views is not right Pierre.
What Nick has said on this is right brother. IMO JESUS WAS A ORDINARY HUMAN BEING WHO CAME INTO EXISTENCE AT HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH, he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca. …I REALIZE THAT, BUT WHAT I AM ADDRESSING HERE IS THE SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES WRITTEN IN 2Ths 2, by PAUL. PAUL SAID THIS IS A LIE, And TAUGHT THAT IT COMES BY THE WORKING OF SATAN HIMSELF. A “lie” That Jesus himself will destory at his return. So please tell what is that “LIE”, that God will send a strong deluding spirit into then that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca. …I REALIZE THAT, BUT WHAT I AM ADDRESSING HERE IS THE SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES WRITTEN IN 2Ths 2, by PAUL. PAUL SAID THIS IS A LIE TAUGHT THAT COMES BY THE WORKING OF SATAN HIMSELF. A “lie” That Jesus himself will destory at his return. So please tell what is that “LIE” that God will send a strong deluding spirit into then that love not the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca….WHILE I MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU ON some things here, i am not your enemy here brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca….WHILE IMIGHT AGREE WITH YOU ON some things here, i amnot your enemy here brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
Terricca….You have bought into the LIE SPOKEN OF IN 2Ths2, the same as nearly all Christendom has. We have told you the truth, but because you you have not loved the truth , God has sent you a deluding sprit, in order for you to believe “the Lie”, which has happened to you a long time ago brother.
I, nor NICK, OR KERWIN, CAN UNDO WHAT GOD HAS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 9 years, 4 months ago
Danny Dabbs. ….CHECK out all the Greek words used there, and you will find he was speaking of his resurection from the Grave, and telling us that it is the spirit that “quickens” the flesh profits nothing because it is the Spirit that they would see that would bring Jesus up from where he was placed before. Think about it brother.
peace and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
T8….WE ARE REALLY EXACTLY LIKE HIM, WE ALWAYS WERE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE betwween Jesus and us is that God supplied his male DNA, therefore he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, not the only son, but the ONLY BEGOTTEN (HUMAN BORN ) SON. My question to you is why are you trying so hard to make him appear as different them we are.
You quote scriptures…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
T8….WE ARE REALLY HIM, WE ALWAYS WERE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE betwween Jesus and us is that God supplied his male DNA, therefore he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, not the only son, but the ONLY BEGOTTEN (HUMAN BORN ) SON. My question to you is why are you trying so hard to make him appear as different them we are.
You quote scriptures that do not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
T8….WE ARE READY LIKE HIM, WE ALWAYS WERE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE betwween Jesus and us is that God supplied his male DNA, therefore he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, not ghe only son, but the ONLY BEGOTTEN (HUMAN BORN ) SON. My question to you is why are you tryingso hard tomake him appear as different them we are.
You quote scriptures that do not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 4 months ago
AndrewAD. ….GOD IS SPIRIT, NO MAN CAN PHYSICALLY SEE SPIRIT, but we can see him “spritually”, with the EYE OF THE MIND. What do you think Jesus meant when he said, Joh 4:18…., NO “MAN” has “seen” God “AT ANY TIME”; the ONLY BEGOTTEN (human born son of God), which is in the bosom (closest to) the Father, has declared him (made known).
John…[Read more]
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