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    Kerwin….makes no diference, whitoutthe true Rock, ou God nothing would count, because he is the only True ROCK, that gives us the revelations in our minds, which in turn makes up our FAITH through the understanding given into our minds, JUST AS HE DID FOR PETER, AND JESUS, IN MAKING THEM “BOTH” , UNDERSTAND WHO EACH OTHER WAS.

    But you are…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD. …ARE YOU AFRAID YOU ALSO HAVE BOUGHT INTO SATAN’S “DEOCTRINE OF SEPERATION” ALSO? Why do you try so hard to make, our lord (adoni) AND MORE IMPORTANT OUR BROTHER, so different then the rest of his human brothers and sisters, would be the true question here, it seems to me.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    Kerwin….BREAKING OF COVANANT.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    Miia and kerwin…..IT’S not complicated to understand, a marriage is a “covenant”, a man and a women enter into. So it makes no difference, who ever moves to destory that covenant is the cause that breaches the covenant, if it is the man then he causes the adultery to take place, because he or the women cannot continue to keep the covenant, he…[Read more]

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    Miia and kerwin…..IT’S not complicated to understand, a marriage is a “covenant”, a man and a women enter into. So it makes no difference, who ever moves to destory that covenant is the cause that breaches the covenant, if it is the man then he causes the adultery to take place, because he or the women cannot continue to keep the covenant, he…[Read more]

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    Kerwin….My post to T8….WAS TO SHOW HIM HE IS WRONG, WITH REGUARDS TO “THE ROCK”, IN MAT15:16-17, Jesus was speaking of, in those scriptures “ONLY”. It had nothing to do with rather he believes in GOD AND/OR JESSUS. MY POINT WAS THAT JESUS USED THE TERM ” I say unto you “Also” was to point out Jesus “ALSO” had the same reaveling knowledge from…[Read more]

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    T8….you mean you can’t put it together, JESUS said unto him (now notice exactly how he used his name) blessed are you (Simon Barjona) because it was not flesh and blood that reavealed who JESUS WAS TO HIM, do you at least see that,so far, then he went on to say it was his FATHER who was in heaven who “reaveled” it unto him, right?, now we…[Read more]

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    T8….Saying JESUS WAS THE ONE WHO “IS” THE LORDS MESSIAH , does not do away with the fact he was speaking of JESUS’ FUTURE DESTINY, again you are trying to force the text to say what in fact it is not saying as you do with other texts. Why can’t you see Jesus as a fellow human being who came into “EXISTENCE”, JUST AS WE DID, why do you try so…[Read more]

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    T8…..Do you truly, bow you knee and honor Jesus, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD” or is it to the GLORY OF JESUS? DO YOU TRULY SEE THE WORK OF GOD “IN” AND “THROUGH” THE MAN JESUS who is “EXACTLY” AS WE ARE, or do you see a preexisting being doing his own works speaking his own words? Can you truly call Jesus your true “BROTHER”, who is the first from…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago

    T8…..JESUS SPOKE NOTHING TO THEM EXCEPT IN PARABLES SO THEY WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, TAKE THE Carnal view point, AND NOT UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING, They proceeded to go on and falsely accuse him of saying what he really was not saying at all. If you can’t come to see this truth, we are telling you, given us by the…[Read more]

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    Sorry for the double post, gene

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    Danny Dabbs. …..be careful with the words lord and LORD, THEY do not mean the same in Hebrew . The word for Jesus should be lord, (adoni) meanning a human ruler, the word LORD in HEBREW IS (adonia) meaning the SUPREME GOD, Big difference in there meaning.

    Let me paraphrase something for you brother, “King David said, “the LORD (“adonia”,…[Read more]

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    Danny Dabbs. …..be careful with the words lord and LORD, THEY do not mean the same in Hebrew . The word for Jesus should be lord, (adoni) meanning a human ruler, the word LORD in HEBREW IS (adonia) meaning the SUPREME GOD, Big difference in there meaning.

    Let me paraphrase something for you brother, “King David said, “the LORD (“adonia”,…[Read more]

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    To all….THERE IS “ONLY” ONE TRUE ROCK and that is GOD THE FATHER ALONE.

    Psalm 18:31 ..”For who is GOD besides the “LORD”, YEHWEH? AND WHO IS A “ROCK” EXCEPT OUR GOD”. 2 Sa 22:32… For who is God, save the LORD?, and who is a “ROCK” save our GOD.

    The “ROCK” Jesus was refering to, was GOD THE FATHER, And is WHO JESUS WOULD BUILD THE CHURCH…[Read more]

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    Kerwin and Nick….. The term GOD is not a person, it is a term that “relates” to a person, “HERE “Ò” ISRAEL THE “LORD” (YEHWEH ) OUR “GOD” IS ONE “LORD” (YEHWEH) . YEHWEH, IS THE Person who is OUR “GOD”

    The term GOD, means “POWER WE TRUST OR LEAN ON” , IT DEMONSTRATES A “RELATIONSHIP” WITH A PERSON WHO IS “YEHWEH”. Like Jesus the “christ” that…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago

    Danny….Yes Jesus is the “eternal” son of GOD AND THE SON OF MAN, “NOW”. BUT HE WAS NOT ETERNAL UNTILL HE BECAME ETERNAL AFTER THE RESURECTION, OR HAVEN’T YOU READ,

    Rev 1:8…. I am he that lives, and was “DEAD”; and behold, (NOW) I am alive for evermore, and have the keys of hell and of death.

    Danny do you see the words i have always had…[Read more]

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    NICK…..Well said, they do not truly understand that God the Father actually was speaking “through” Jesus and was abiding “IN” him. IT was not Jesus that said ” destory this temple and in three days I shal raise it up., That was God The Father, first person speaking through Jesus’ mouth, via the ANOINTING SPIRIT, he re ieved at the JORDAN RIVER.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 4 months ago

    T8…..Your preseception of the word “before” used there is your problem. You assume he is speaking of his existence as a “being”, but that was not Jesus’ point , he was talking about his importance in standing. HE IS MORE INPORTANT than Abraham was and this also applies to John the baptist who also said that. Jesus did not prexist before his…[Read more]

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    Danny….Your running them together, like Jesus and christ mean the same thing, but that is the error, while we can say Jesus (the) Christ, that does not make JESUS A CHRIST HIMSELF, NO JESUS the man is the anointed one or christ of God. Big difference in perceptions. You are trying to see Jesus himself as the anointing spirit of God, another…[Read more]

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    Danny…..IF YOU CAN’T SEPERATE JESUS THE MAN FROM THE ANOINTING HE RECIEVED FROM GOD , YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROPERLY RELATE WITH HIM. It is APSOLUTELY crucial, you see JESUS THE MAN AS AN ANOINTED HUMAN BEING EXACTLY LIKE YOU AND ME AND ALL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. You have to at least come to see that, to even begin to come to the truth of God.…[Read more]

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