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    Jael…..Welcome to the site, GOOD POST.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    kerwin….Yes i do believe Paul was well educated for his day. But Without the Spirit of truth, education with regards to the FAITH means nothing. Most of the true apostles were not well educated, but they spoke sound truths that even the most educated could not understand, this is even true today. Like Paul said though i have “all” knowledge and…[Read more]

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    T8…I don’t believe it has anything to do with a will that is “free’, but a will that is neutral at berth and over time became “influenced'” into that orentation of behavior, and becomes a strong lust or desire. It’s all about preexisting exposures influencing the minds along with normal internal sexual drives. That is why it is very important…[Read more]

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    T8…I don’t believe it has anything to do with a will that is “free’, but a will that is neutral at berth and over time became “influenced'” into that orentation of behavior, and becomes a strong lust or desire. It’s all about preexisting exposures influencing the minds along with normal internal sexual drives. Tahat is why it is very important…[Read more]

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    T8…OK, lets take another example written in scriptures Isa 9:6… “for unto us a child “is” born, unto us a son “is” given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called wonderful, counsellor, mighty one, the everlasting one, the prince of peace.

    Now do you see the words i highlighted “is” born, “is” given? do…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    kerwin….PAUL counted all that as dung that he might win christ and gain the truth of GOD. He believed his past cridentuals meet nothing, for him to brage about, remember with those cridentials he persecuted the church of GOD, he was indeed a Pharisee of Pharisees completely decieved reguarding the FAITH, and truth of God. But thanks be to GOD…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    T8….True, and they missed everything JESUS was saying, it went right over their egotistical heads. They were also the self professed wise, but were in fact fools. God has indeed chosen the simple to confound the so-called wise, it’s the same today as it was then, but those led by the spirit of the LIVING GOD, will not follow these self-professed…[Read more]

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    T8….You are misquoting those scripures, to meet your convictions, why can’t you see PAUL was not talking about Jesus’ prexistence before he came into his existence on the earth, but when he “existed” on this earth before his assention? Paul no where taught JESUS existed before he was born on this earth, infact no apostle ever said he preexisted…[Read more]

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    TO all…..”train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart”, another words, you can expect to get from your childern whats being put into them. If you are telling them Homosexuality is acceptable and normal behavior, then don’t be supprised at what you will get?

    The “inquity” of this sin is in removing the word…[Read more]

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    T8…..Tell us when did JESUS BECOME OUR SAVIOR, at berth or when he died on the cross? Were we saved before he was even born, while he was still in heaven according to your prexistence view, and scripture does say he was sacrificed from the foundations of the earth, so are we to think he did not have to come and do anything because he already was…[Read more]

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    kerwin….you have it right brother. JESUS WAS INDEED BORN for the very purpose of becomming both lord and Messiah, but none of that happened at his berth, but that was his assigned destiny afforded him by GOD the Father, from the foundations of the world. when he was anointed he became the MESSIAH, and when he was later exaulted by the Father,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    HI, all those lead by the spirit of God will not follow a false shepherd, because they know the sound of the true sheppard, and will not follow a false trinitarian teacher no matter how highely he thinks of himself. We have a teacher, just as Jesus said, “you shall “all’be taught by God. God the Father through his spirit of truth teaches us to…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, no scripture say men are “born” perverts, we are all born with sexual potentials unless the person is born a eunuch, the desire for sex is genderless, it’s just a strong desire causing lusts in all males and females, all nornal humans have it, now if their minds are not channeled properly, humans will engage in all kinds of sexual…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    T8….HOGHEAD has nothing, to actually support his, “assumed” right position on the trinity, he just blabs out some scriptures that he can “force” the text by adding to them to say what he wants them to say, but when confronted with the actual scripture that shows the exact opposite he just ignores them as if they really weren’t in his bible…[Read more]

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    T8….Jesus emptied himself of everything including his only life, PAUL was not talking abou a past existence before he was born into his existence here on this earth. Jesus “existed” while he was on this earth before his assention, in the nature of GOD, by the spirit of God which was God abidibg “in” him.

    Why can’t you come to see, Satan…[Read more]

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    T8….Jesus emptied himself of everything including his only life, PAUL was not talking abou a past existence before he was born into his existence here on this earth. Jesus “existed” while hewason this earth before his assention, i the nature of GOD by the spirit of God which was God abidibg “in” him.

    Why can’t you come to see Satan wants you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ….YOU AND MARTY, both have it right, Jesus was “the” CHRISTO’S, or the “Anointed” one of God, and that anointing was GOD the FATHER who by that process was ‘IN”, the man JESUS. When Thomas came to finally see that, then it dawned on him, like, “O” , I get it! “my lord “AND” my God”. “God was “IN” the anointed Jesus reconciling the world unto…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    hoghead….IF Jesus was GOD HE WOULD HAVE “NEVER” SAID “for “thou” are the “only” “true” God, i really do not believe his was talking about himself now was he? The word “only” means no other, the last time i looked anyway, and the word true, mean real, also the last time i looked. SO if my lord (adoni human ruler) said that to us, why should we…[Read more]

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    TO ALL…..All who have made Jesus into another GOD, have fallen into IDOLATRY, AND HAVE “SEPERATED’ Him from themselves as being a pure human being, they no longer can properly identify with him through moving Jesus away from their own humanity, so they have fallen for the bigest “LIE’ ever fostered on humanuty. That “LIE” about JESUS which turns…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 8 years, 11 months ago

    Marty…..Right on brother, discarding the clear and sound truth, for the ambiguous is exactly what false teachers do, they put together their own form of religions based on ambiguity, they cannot deal with what is clear written, this is how we all can know them. They have changed the truth for a “LIE”. while this can work for the already decieved…[Read more]

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