kerwin….WHAT do you do with the scriptures that say “because when they know God they glorified him not as God, therefore he turned them over in their “minds” to do those unseemly things” . If we are not being kept by GOD we would all turn to those sinful things imo.

peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

Jael……..ANOTHER good post brother. It is the same spirit that was in Jesus making him the christo’s of GOD the father by his anointing OF THE SPIRIT, that SAME SPIRIT is also in the true Saint’s of God. You have it right.

peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

T8…..IT says “TODAY IS “BORN”, UNTO YOU , “A” SAVIOUR IT’S NOT SAYING HE ALREADY SAVED NOW DOES IT?, BUT THAT HE WAS “BORN’ THAT DAY. Lets be honest T8, you need this to try to prove he preexisted as such. Jesus became a saviour that was his destiny at berth, but it never happened till he actually died on the stake or cross, even though that…[Read more]

AndrewAD. …right, we are born into a decieved world, with sin everwhere, as JOHN SAID “all that is in the world, the lust of the eyes,the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life comes from the world and the world is passing away and the lusts with it”.

GOD knew in the beginning man would fall eventually he knew man could not of himself by a…[Read more]

T8….Do you even know what a WILL really is, Just by understanding it meaning should teachk you there is nothibg “free” about it. The word WILL IS A DESIRE FOR SOMETHING. THAT desire is ’caused’ by influences working in your mind. The things that make up that influences are recieved into a person, and once it is in the mind it “causes” a desire.…[Read more]

EDJ….Nicks response to you was agreeing with me, you have tried to turn it around to agree with you. GO back and reread what he said.

SIMON was given the privilege to see befor3 he died the “prophesied” Messiah, all ISREAL was waiting for, and the Angel told them the one who was to become the MESSIAH was born to them that day. IT…[Read more]

EDJ…..GOD WAS ALWAY GOD scripture says he has no beginning or ending of days. what does your query have to do with the subject matter we were discusing anyway. whats your point?

T8…..YOU logic would be, because a fireman became a fireman he was one when he was born, no, he became a fireman after he passed the test and meet all the…[Read more]

T8…..The truth is the man Jesus did come into his “existence” in the flesh, the christo’s also came into that flesh man Jesus, now the christo’s is not itself flesh but is the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, and it entered THE MAN JESUS, at the Jordan when the MAN JESUS was baptized by JOHN the Baptist, That took place when the man Jesus Became the…[Read more]

LU… GOD IS SPIRIT and can indwell us, just as he did Jesus, but none of that makes a trinity of GODS. Just “one” GOD, in all and through “all”. We like JESUS CAN HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN US ALSO. IF we let the mind of God be in us, then we will be in him, the same way HE WAS “IN” THE MAN JESUS and He in us, by that same spirit, But Again none…[Read more]

T8….I will take an example from my own life , once I had a smoking addiction, i know that it was wrong and that GOD WANTED ME TO NOT SMOKE, so i decided to quit, that was my “will”, so i started trying ,i would put nearly whole packs of cigarettes in water , to not be abke to smoke, but within 2 hours i was digging for snipes in my cars ash try,…[Read more]

T8…..No one is saying that was not his destiny at berth, but he was not those things till it “actually” happened. WHER you ar e wrong imo is that you are trying to make as if at his berth he had alread become those things, so i disagree with that. I am not denying he was to became all those things, which he did, but to say he already was those…[Read more]

kerwin….IN THAT TIME THERE WERE NO GENERAL ESTABLISHED EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FOR THE AVARAGE PERSON. General the only one who could read and write were the wealth, not the commoners of that day. The apostles insites and ubderstaning was given them by Jesus and the spirit of God. Just as it say , “brethern you have no need that anyone teach you for…[Read more]

Jael…..Another good post brother. Jesus was indeed telling the Jews he was more important than Abraham, it had nothing to do with him preexisting, as a sentinal being before Abraham.

peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

Jael…..The Fatger “is” spirit, according to Jesus, and When it tells us to let this mind be in us that was in the christ Jesus our lord. THAT is indeed refering to the spirit of GOD. JUST as it says , “if the spirit of him that raised christ Jesus from the grave, dwell in you, it shall also quicken your mortal body.” we should all take the form…[Read more]

Jael…..When it tells us to let this mind be in us that was in the christ Jesus our lord. THAT is indeed refering to the spirit of GOD. JUST as it says , “if the spirit of him that raised christ Jesus from the grave, dwell in you, it shall also quicken your mortal body.” we should all take the form of a servant that is our calling. IMO

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T8…..We are not saying that at berth it not Jesus’ DESTINY TO BE Lord and Savior, But anyone with common sense knows Jesus was not a lord or savior untill he actually performed the very act of salvation, and actually give his position as lord, by GOD later as scriptures plainly show us. How could Jesus be our savior before he ever diesfor the…[Read more]

T8…..”GOD HAS CONCLUDED “ALL” UNDER SIN,THAT “HE” MAY HAVE MERCY ON “ALL”. If God does not write his laws in our inward parts, we would never in abillion years chose what is right. YOU religion seems to based on you, and your, so-called, “freewill” , so who need GOD according to you doctrine, we are perfectly able to chose what is right…[Read more]

T8…..”GOD HAS CONCLUDED “ALL” UNDER SIN,THAT “HE” MAY HAVE MERCY ON “ALL”. If God does not write his laws in our inward parts, we would never in abillion years chose what is right. YOU religion seems to based on you, and your, so-called, “freewill” , so who need GOD according to you doctrine, we are perfectly able to chose what is right…[Read more]

Kerwin…..Rom 718….For I know that in me ( that is my flesh) dwells no good thing: why?, he then answers why, ” for to “will” is present with me; but to perform that which is good I find not.

Is not Paul saying no one can chose what is good from their own “so-called” freewill choices, so if that is true then how could anyone ever make a…[Read more]

Kerwin…..Rom 718….For I know that in me ( that is my flesh) dwells no good thing: why?, he then answers why, ” for to “will” is present with me; but to perform that which is good I find not.

Is not Paul saying no one can chose what is good from their own “so-called” freewill choices, so if that is true then how could anyone ever make a…[Read more]