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GeneBalthrop started the topic Second Thesalonians explained in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
TO ALL second Thesalonians is one of the most key scriptures in religion today,just as it was in the day the apostle Paul wrote it, it explaind the condition of the chrurches of his day, and the drection they were heading, it is a cruciel book identifying many thing that concerned the apostles then and shows us what was to happen in the churches…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop started the topic Second Thesalonians explained in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
TO ALL second Thesalonians is one of the most key scriptures in religion today,just as it was inthe day the apostle Paul wrote it, it explaind the condition ofthe chrurches of his day, and the drection they were heading, it is a cruciel book identifying many thing that concerned the apostles then and shows us was tohappen in the churches od GOD.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU…..ALMIGHTY God (adonia) is. not JESUS, THAT ALMIGHTY GOD WAS HIS GOD ALSO,JUST AS HE IS OURS ALSO. DID Jesus not say he was going to “his” God and “our” God, his Father and our Father? You would have us believe Jesus went to himself, that he was the God of himself.
ANOTHER POINT IS your definition of the man is obvisely wrong because it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU….Again, `I can tell you Jesus is refered to in the Old Testement as a adoni/lord (a human ruler) not ever as Adonia/Almighty God. Not even once in the Old Testement is he every refered to as such. Jesus said he had a God and it was not him, in fact he said that God was the “only” “true” God, which all other God’s are “false” Gods.
You must…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin…..GOOD POST BROTHER.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU….You need to make a study on the words lord, used in the scriptures, there are two words for lord, one is LORD (adonia) meaning the almighty God, the other is lord (adoni) mean a human ruler. Your mixing the two up,
Where scripture says the LORD, adonia (almighty God) said to my lord adoni (a human ruler) sit on my side until I “ADONIA)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Phil 2:1-11 In the Form of God, how and when? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Jael…..Good post brother.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
miia….By saying he was a ordinary human being, is not being disrespectful to him, he is the first of the human race to have attained the goal God the Father has in mind for us all. He also was a uniquely created human being as Adam and Eve was also, but none ofthat made him any different then the rest of humanity. HE is our example of what GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin….if HARDIAN is the one mentioned in 2Ths2, then he still must be worshiped as a GOD, BECAUSE it say Jesus is to destory or abolish this at his “return”, by his very own mouth. So that has to disqulify Him as being the man of sin, mentioned who still sits in the temple of God.
ALSO PAUL was addressing this writing to the church only ,not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin….if HARDIAN is the one mentioned in 2Ths2, then he still must be worshiped as a GOD, BECAUSE it say Jesus is to destory or abolish this at his “return”, by his very own mouth. So that has to disqulify Him as being the man of sin, mentioned who still sits in the temple of God.
ALSO PAUL was addressing this writing to the church only ,not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin…..Hardian was not a GOD IN THE “APOSTATE” CHURCHES. PAUL was not speaking about the world but was “specific” to the churches, as John was also, and where WAS HARDIAN PROCLAIMED BY THE CHURCH OF GOD, AS A GOD, DOES Jesus at his return destory that lie. kerwin it is vitle you and others come to understand 2Ths2. we must not take just parts…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
AndrewAD. …If it clearly said it then no one could be “decieved” now could they? if you buy into Jesus being a GOD, YOU buy not loving the truth and have recieved a deluding spirit from GOD, that you might believe a “LIE” and that “LIE” is that JESUS IS A GOD. If that be the case you are of the “apostate churches” IMO
peace and love to you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
AndrewAD. …If it clearly said it then no one could be “decieved” now could they? if you buy into Jesus being a GOD, YOU by not loving have recieved a deluding spirit from GOD, that you might believe a “LIE” and that “LIE” is that JESUS IS A GOD. If that be the case you are of the “apostate churches” IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
miia….JESUS DID WARN US, “many shall come in my name saying i am, and “decieve” many. THIS also Jesus said in prayer, “for thou are the “only” “true” God”,now if he professed GOD THE FATHER AS THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then “ALL” others call a GOD are “false” God’s right? JESUS WAS A PURE “HUMAN” BEING, NO God, not then nor now is he himself a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
miia….JESUS DID WARN US, “many shall come in my name saying i am, and “decieve” many. THIS also Jesus said in prayer, “for thou are the “only” “true” God”,now if he professed GOD THE FATHER AS THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then “ALL” others call a GOD are “false” God’s right? JESUE WAS A PURE HUMAN BEING, NO God, not then nor now is he himself a GOD.,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Kerwin….You and T8 Have brought out some good points, scripture tells us we are being renewed by the transforming of our minds, and Jesus did say we are to bear our own cross so we must deny ourselves and follow him and overcome as he did ” by the power of God”, we are being “created” unto good works by God the Father. IMO
peace and love to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Miia…. Take all the points in 2 Ths2 and put then together,
1…..it was a preexisting “iniquity” that was working already in the churches at the time of the apostles.
2….. It says God would send them a spirit of dilution in order for them to believe the “LIE”. So what ever it was it was a LIE about something, and that something was A human…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Hi…”What does God “require” of you, O man, but to do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly “with” your God”
Peace and love to you all and yours………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Duster1….There is a big difference between the words LORD (Adonia, meaning Almighty God) and lord (adoni, meaning a human ruler. We are told we can come to the measure and “full” stature of Christ Jesus, but we are not told we can come unto the full measure and stature of God, nowhere in scripture. We bow to Jesus to the glory of God the Father…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Jael, many many TRINITAARIANS have come her over the years, but when confronted with solid scriptures they try to dodge and skirt around , but when forced into a corner they put their tail between their legs a leave. Don’t be deceived this site is a major stand against TRINITARIANS at least every sense I have been here and that been a long time.…[Read more]
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