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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin…..Having faith in God does not prevent stumbling at times. We all still have our human nature to deal with, as Paul clearly ststed he had,even call himself wretched , another Case and point King David, a man of great faith. If perfection were possible then why are we under grace. “for you are saved by grace and that not of yourselves, it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
TO ALL…..To properly understand the condition of modern christanity, it is essential to come to understand the letter of (2Ths 2), that the apostle Paul wrote to the Thesalonians, every thing is there for those who have ears to hear.
The position of the church is a fallen state (apostate) because they have left their first live (God the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin and Nick……We are to grow in grace “and” knowledge unto a perfect man. kerwin it is all a process and takes place over time, and many time we do stumble as Nick said, I think you know that already. We will most likely not become perfect until the resurection, but we should still press for the mark of the high calling of the anointing…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin…..My point is that the man JESUS has his owns pirit as we do and that spirit is not the anointing spirit of GOD, AND Jesus was not born with it, he obtained it later when he was baptized at the Jordan river, That is when he became the christo’s or anointed one of God. I EVEN QUOTED SCRIPTURE SHOWING THAT THE SAME THING MUST HAPPEN “IN”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
kerwin…..My point is that the man JESUS has his ownspirit as we do and that spirit is not the anointing spirit od GOD, AND Jesus was not born with itm, he obtained it later when he was baptized at the Jordan river, That is when he became the christo’s or anointed one of God. I EVEN QUOTED SCRIPTRES SHOWING THAT THE SAME THING MUST HAPPEN TO US…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
KERWIN… JESUS IS THE CHRISTO’S , BECAUSE OF THE ANOINTING, WHICH “IS” THE SPIRIT OF God, not the spirit Jesus was not born with, it came to be “in” us, as it also did the “man” Jesus. Remember what it says,
Rom 8:11.. ” now if the spirit “of him that raised up JESUS from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up (the anounted on) or christ…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
KERWIN… JESUS IS THE CHRISTO’S , BECAUSE OF THE ANOINTING, WHICH “IS” THE SPIRIT OF God, not the spirit Jesus was not born with, it came to be “in” us, as it also did THE ‘MAM” Jesus. Remember what it says, ” now if the spirit “of him” that rised the anointed or christ Jesus from the dead is “in” you, he (GOD) shall “also” quicken your…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
EDJ….You are also wrong about the spirit of the CHRISTO’S BEING Jesus born with spirit, THE SPIRIT OF THE ANOINTING WAS ADDED TO HIM FROM ABOVE BY GOD THE FATHER, AT HIS Baptism in the JORDAN RIVER BY JOHN. Just as scripture shows. THE spirit of the “christo’s, is the holy spirit of God, that came into the flesh man JESUS, AT THAT TIME HE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
EDJ….YOU shifted subject matter, from the word GOD to the name of “our” GOD, “YEHWEH”, WE WEREN’T TALKING ABOUT THAT, we were talking about the “word” GOD ITSELF. NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONFUSION, THE WORD “YEHWEH’, AND THE WORD “GOD” ARE NOT THE SAME WORD, YEHWEH IS THE NAME OF THE “PERSON” WHO “IS” OUR GOD, GET IT?
Pointing out to you it is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
EDJ….YOU shifted subject matter to the name of “our” GOD, “YEHWEH”, WE WEREN’T TALKING ABOUT THAT, we were talking about the “word” GOD ITSELF. NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONFUSION, THE WORD “YEHWEH’, AND THE WORD “GOD” ARE NOT THE SAME WORD, YEHWEH IS THE NAME OF THE “PERSON” WHO IS OUR GOD.
Pointing out to you it is obvisely clear you haven’t a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 10 months ago
T8….NO ONE HERE IS DENYING JESUS WAS BORN TO BE THE SAVIOR, OR MESSIAH. YOU DENY HE WAS BORN “TO BE” IT , BY SAYING HE WAS ALREADY IT AT BERTH. TELL US HOW HE DIED FOR OUR SINS AT HIS BERTH? You are speaking as if you have no grasp that JESUS’ had a prophesied mission on this earth, you afforded those things to him, even before he even…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
T8….NO ,YOU ARE THE ONE denying he was a human christo’s, or messiah, perhaps you don’t really know what it means to be a ANOUNTED PERSON. IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE SCRIPTURE YOU WOULD KNOW JESUS had not a single idea who he qas at berth JUST LIKE US, he grew in staure and Kowledge just as all humans do and at the right time he was baptized by JOHN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
T8….Your getting what a person was prophesied and predestined to be as if he already was that at berth, was the apostle PAUL ALREADY a apostle at berth because he said he was destined to be from berth?, was he that when he was persecuting the church ?. Another thing you do say a man by his own choses can chose GOD’S WAYS, because you say you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU…The only difference is that body will be a Body that can LIVE FOREVER, JUST AS JESUS’ ” body” now is. DO you belive you will be a spirit that drifts around in “arid” OR DRY places looking for a “body” to find rest IN ? THE WORD “HEAVENLY BODY”, SIMPLY APPLIES TO A BODY MADE BY GOD HIMSELF, like ADAMS AND EVE’S WERE, THEY COULD HAVE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU…The only difference is that body will be BLE TO LIVE FOREVER, JUST AS JESUS’ ” body” now is. DO you belive you will be a spirit that drifts around in “arid” OR DRY places looking for a “body” to find rest IN ? THE WORD “HEAVENLY BODY”, SIMPLY APPLIES TO A BODY MADE BY GOD HIMSELF, like ADAMS AND EVE’S WERE, THEY COULD HAVE LIVED FOREVER…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
EDJ….IT IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD EVEN MEANS, FIRST GET THAT STRAIGHT, AND THE REST SHOULD FALL INTO PLACE. THE WORD GOD, SIMPLY PUT IS A “RELATIVE” TERM, THE WORD GOD DESCRIBES A CONDITIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO SOMETHING. SCRIPTURE SAYS “AS FOR GOD’S THERE ARE MANY, BUT UNTO US THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD”, NOW IF WE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
EDJ….IT IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD EVEN MEANG, FIRST GET THAT STRAIGHT, AND THE REST SHOULD FALL INTO PLACE. THE WORD GOD, SIMPLY PUT A “RELATIVE” TERM, GOD DESCRIBES A CONDITIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO SOMETHING. SCRIPTURE SAYS “AS FOR GOD’S THERE ARE MANY, BUT UNTO US THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD”, NOW IF WE WENT WITH YOUR…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU…..Jesus told us he had a GOD, and that God was also our God as well as his GOD. SCRIPTURE SAY God is “not” a man, that he should lie or a son of man that he should repent. scripture also tells there is “one” God and “one” mediator between that “one” God , and man “the man” JESUS CHRIST.
Again you have a dilemma on your hands it appears, GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
LU….By man sin entered the world, and by man it was atonned for. JESUS WAS THAT MAN, God the Father offered for a sacrifice for the sin of the whole world. GOD did not sacrifice another God morphed i to a human body, but brought forthe from the sons of Isreal a human Son by impregnating HIS MOTHER MARY. Jesus is the only human being ever…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 10 months ago
Edj….NO GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD. YOU HAVENT A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THE WORD GOD IS A RELATIVE TERM, IN FACT THERE ARE MANY HE YEHWEH IS NOT THE GOD OF.
THE WORD GOD CAME TO US FROM A PICTORIAL HEBREW WORD, THE PICTURE WAS A OX HEAD WITH ASHEPPARDS STAFF LEANING ON IT. NOW PUT THAT PICTURE…[Read more]
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