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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jael….I agree with you it is a metaphor the term tree means that which produces from self. As God warned Adam and Eve not to “eat’ (take to self from the tree (that which produces fro self) the knowledge of good and evil. Because that would cause to have to experience it (good and evil) themselves, So God was warning them before the actually did…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….what was the teachings of the Gnostic’s, in the day of PAUL AND JOHN. Their teachings are clearly recorded, why don’t you go look that up and come and see if you think that is who the true Jesus is or was? Go and see for yourself if that is the true JESUS THEY TAUGHT AND SEE IF IT WAS A “LIE” ABOUT THE TRUE JESUS OR NOT. It is their “LIE”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jael….If Jesus’ body never saw coruption then that body still exists correct, even though it now has been regenerated by the spirit.
Scripture tells us that Adam and Eve could have lived forever with the the bodies they had even after they sinned had they eaten of the tree of life . According to the words of God.The tree of life could keep…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….THE “TRUE” JESUS, DID NOT TAKE HIS SEAT IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, TO BE WORSHIPED “AS A GOD”, THE FALSE “IMAGE” OF JESUS, CREATED BY THE FALLEN CHURCH DID.
Please tell us how Any other man could have taken his seat in the true temple of GOD. THE only man I know of who took his seat in the temple of God was the man Jesus, do you know of any…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick…..it came to be when the Gnostic’s, created it by the “LIE” THEY preached about Jesus being a God. God plainly said we were not to make “ANY IMAGE” of him in heaven above or earth beneath. An Image is a preception of something in the minds of people, it does not have to be the real thing. This false “image” of Jesus (who is a man) was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jael…..I also believe Jesus was born sinless just like all other humans are. He was kept from sin by GOD .Therefore His body did not see coruption in the grave because he never commited a sin, so the judgment of God (the soul of him that sinneth it shall perish) could not be applied to him , so his body did not “parish” as ours will because we…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
T8…..please read “and” study carefully, and come back and explain your term “mere flesh” Heb 2:6-14.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….is not the Jesus preached by fallen christianity preached and worshiped as a God?, Yes it is a “false” Jesus yes it is a false “image” of Jesus created by fallen christanity. Did not even Jesus say that “IN HIS NAME” people would be decieved. Did he not say “MANY” WOULD COME IN “MY” SAYING I AM, AND DECIEVE “MANY”. “SAYING I AM”, WHAT?, A…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….so give me the help then, by showing where i am wrong in what i have said.
Look I am more then willing to descuss what i have posted on this subject OR ANY OTHER, but you have offered nothing but sarcastic statements about MY PERSON. Bad form Nick. When i disagree with what someone says, i try to show why i disagree, not try to make the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….so prove me wrong then, why horse around with empty words, show us the truth about what i have said if you know it’s wrong, you offer nothing but empty. Why descourage others who may also come to see this. Its no matter to me, so let every man read it and draw his or her own conclusion. I have apsolutly no doubt about what I have written.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick, truth is “THE SUM OF GODS WORD” you seem unable to answer any of the questions, and give no alternative meaning of those scriptures either, why is that? Do you not understand what the spirit is saying or do you despise the spirit of prophecy, if you have the truth then produce it we are waiting, if not then why even disagree with what I…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….Then please tell us what is the true interpretation of 2 ths2, if you know. Please answer these questions if you can.
1….what is a “LIE” spoken of in 2ths2 ?
2….is it brought forth by the working of Satan?
3….what “man” do you know off that is being represented and worshiped as a GOD?
4….what “MAN” that you know of that has taken…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….Then please tell us what is the true interpretation of 2 ths2, if you know. Please answer these questions if you can.
1….what is a “LIE” spoken of in 2ths2 ?
2….is it brought forth by the working of Satan?
3….what “man” do you know off that is being represented and worshiped as a GOD?
4….what “MAN” that you know of that has taken…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jael…..Good question, to me Jesus is the actual human being that God has in mind for us all. He is not unique as meaning different from us human beings, but the exact purpose God the Father has in mind for us all, he is a “perfected” human being. There it behoved him to be made exactly as we are, at his berth, therefore he coul not have a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jael…..Good question, to me Jesus is the actual human being that God has in mind for us all. He is not unique as meaning different from us human beings, but the exact purpose God the Father has in mind for us all, he is a “perfected” human being. There it behoved him to be made exactly as we are, at his berth, therefore he coul not have a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Dual Nature of Christ in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….Yes just as it is with Jesus it can also be with us, just as it say Eph 4:13, “untill we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure and the stature of the “fullness” of Christ.”
The work of the SPIRIT is to bring us unto the full measure and stature of CHRIST…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The mystery of Melchizedek in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
T8….A test for you, tell us who said this, was it Jesus or GOD THE FATHER speaking through him.
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.
Was it Jesus who raised himself up, or was it GOD THE FATHER, SEENING Jesus was dead those three days.
T8, Do you have ears to hear who was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 5 months ago
T8…..do you even believe Jesus had to be anointed before he could even qulify as a Christo’s? The word christo’s or messiah, applies only to man and not to a preexisting being who was a God as you assume. God the father impregnated a human women “Mary”, making Jesus the “only” human being begotten, (born of flesh) , by God himself, through a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick…..as you quoted, 1 Cor 12:13, “for by one spirit we are baptized into one body”. Whether we be Jew’s or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have all been made to drink into one spirit.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 5 months ago
Nick….can it read , “for all of you who were baptized into the anointing were colthed with the anointing” . The word Christ may not always mean the man Jesus. Notice the word Jesus does not appear in the text. Many get the “man” Jesus mixed up with the word anointing spirit, as if the “man” jesus himself was the anointing spirit he was…[Read more]
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