Hello Marty…I'm not sure how your post… or the verses you listed… contradicts or negates my belief that Jesus was the perfect and only true sacrifice that was required to reconcile man with God.  Indeed… how does your post… or the verses you listed… even contradict what mikeboll64 said in his most recent response to what you wrote to…[Read more]

Hello bodhitharta… I haven't been on here in a long time, but are you writing to me? If you were, and you wish to continue, let me know and i will respond.I hope all is well and I'm glad to see you are still on here fighting for your beliefs… even though I disagree with them.Take careFrancis

Thanks Asana for your timely reply.I wasn't able to finish my response… and now it is 1am in the morning and I have to get up at 7am and go to work.   After that… I have to spend the rest of Sunday to prep for my Bible study on Monday night.So I won't be able to finish my response until after Monday night.  My Bible study goes until 1am.  …[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2012,00:37)Quote (francis @ April 28 2012,06:50)Where were the disciples of Jesus in the plan and purpose of God if we are to believe the Quran in 4:157 ?  How on earth  could they… and why would they have… just sit down and let the Jewish leaders spread lies about the crucifixion if  Jesus didn't die as you te…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote I don't think it's necessary to question our friendship or love for one another, that to me goes without  saying. Thanks Asana… I will never question our friendship again. I enjoy our exchanges and I want you to feel completely free  to be yourself in our discussions.  Don't hold back.  Say what is in your heart… you won…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote FrancisWhat you are saying just doesn't Gel and here's why: Jesus explainsJohn 10:36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Jesus was sent into the world if he was God incarnated he would not  have made the distinction that God sent him into…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote divine (adj.) c.1300, from O.Fr. devin (12c.), from L. divinus “of a god,” from divus “a god,” related to deus “god, deity” (see Zeus). Weakened sense of “excellent” had evolved by late 15c.divine (v.) “to conjure, to guess,” originally “to make out by supernatural insight,” mid-14c., from O.Fr. deviner, from V.L. *devinare,…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote And what is this talk about incarnation where in the world in the bible does it say anything about God being “Incarnated”The Incarnation is a fundamental theological teaching of orthodox (Nicene) Christianity, based on its understanding of the New Testament. In the Bible, the clearest teaching about the Incarnation appears to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2012,20:00)Quote (francis @ April 25 2012,19:04)Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,18:18)Quote (francis @ April 25 2012,17:07)Hello Asana…3)… While it is true that the root of the word Divine is literally “godlike”… when we look into the definition of the word as it is used today and in the past… the word “Divine”…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,18:18)Quote (francis @ April 25 2012,17:07)Hello Asana…3)… While it is true that the root of the word Divine is literally “godlike”… when we look into the definition of the word as it is used today and in the past… the word “Divine” appears to have many kinds of meanings.But as I was saying to Ed J… when I was…[Read more]

Hello Mike…Quote Francis had written:Jesus.. when He left heaven to become lower than angles for our sake… he voluntarily limited to some degree His qualities as God… like His omniscience, omnipotence, etc.Mike responded with this:So was Jesus on earth “fully God”, or “limited God”?  I don't see how you can say that both things apply.When I…[Read more]

Asana wrote:Quote We never disagreed that it was widely believed, thought or written about that Jesus was Crucified or killed so your entire argument is based on a wrong premise.Hello Asana…I'm not using a wrong premise as you suggest… but instead, I'm using that very knowledge we agree on, as one of my basic premises. And so that has been my…[Read more]

Asana wrote this:Quote (There) is no such thing as a Divine God because the word Divine means godlike and God can never have a Divine nature, I really wish you guys study more and accuse less.Hello Asana…With all due respect… and with the utmost sincerity from one friend to another… I would gently encourage you to follow your own advice and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,05:37)Quote (francis @ April 25 2012,02:24)Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,17:40)Quote (francis @ April 24 2012,16:13)Hello Mike… That part of Jesus… the fully Divine part… was in full and total agreement with each other.Yours in ChristFrancisHi Francis,What does this mean?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)Hello Ed…So…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,17:40)Quote (francis @ April 24 2012,16:13)Hello Mike… That part of Jesus… the fully Divine part… was in full and total agreement with each other.Yours in ChristFrancisHi Francis,What does this mean?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)Hello Ed…If you add the sentence right before the one you quoted from my post to…[Read more]

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Quote (francis @ April 23 2012,11:26)Now, since the Quran was written 600 years after Jesus' time on earth… then that means that Mohammed must have seen written records or had evidence in front of him which testified to the fact that there were all these people who were boasting that they killed Jesus.  Otherwise, how would Mohammed known about…[Read more]

Hello Mike…Quote Francis wrote:By definition, God is perfect and therefore there is no disagreements or arguments between the 3 persons of the Godhead.  God the Father… God the son… and God the Holy Spirit are always in complete harmony in all things.  If there was no complete and total harmony between the 3 persons of God, then God c…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote Oy, so you are saying Jesus sacrificed himself and not that God sacrificed him or told him in any way to allow such a sacrifice right?Unfortunately, it looks like we are still not able to communicate enough so that we understand each other.  I will take the blame since I realize that I'm not all that bright.First of all, Jesus…[Read more]