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    Hi Journey42,

    I realize it is probably still hard for you to understand, so I’ll give you another verse, OK?

    “For verily he took not on him the nature of (NO) “THE FORM OF” angels;
    but he took on him the seed of Abraham.” (Heb 2:16)

    Who is the “HE” here? Christ of course, right?

    So Christ DID NOT become the first Angel God created (as some…[Read more]

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    Hi Journey42,

    You want an explanation, OK you got it.

    Before the world was there was no Christ only God.
    “The spirit of Christ” came out from God, and was in Moses
    as Moses lead the children of Israel out of the house of bondage.

    The very verse you quote is the evidence of what I’m suggesting to you.
    I’ll highlight the parts so that you won’t…[Read more]

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      EDj.

      God said He is alone.
      How can Jesus have Glory with the father before the world was, when there is none else but God?
      How can God use the word *US* when He is alone?
      How can God say he created all things alone, when scripture also says Jesus created all things for himself.
      Ask your masters for the answers.

      Re’ Moses; God guided to Moses and…[Read more]

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    Hi Journey42,

    You want an explanation, OK you got it.

    Before the world was there was no Christ only God.
    “The spirit of Christ” came out from God, and was in Moses
    as Moses lead the children of Israel out of the house of bondage.

    The very verse you quote is the evidence of what I’m suggesting to you.
    I’ll highlight the parts so that you won’t…[Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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      EDj.

      You have shown nothing to proof anything.

      Proof Why God says He is alone; and proof why the existence of His Son.
      Proof why His Son is sitting on His right hand; when He says He is alone, and beside Him there is no saviour.
      Proof; to us your wisdom, with no dancing with words.

      wakeup.

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in scripture i…

    [Read more]

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    Edj.

    First you must understand what you read.
    Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

    Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
    The word written in s…

    [Read more]

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    Ed

    All of a sudden “the Word” who became Jesus has a cult following?
    I’m in that cult then!

    Hi Journey42,

    I thought Wakeup was your teacher? And No, that not what I’m saying.
    Read Col.2:20-22 and perchance you may get it, but if not feel free to ask.

    ___________
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _____…[Read more]

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      Edj.

      First you must understand what you read.
      Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).

      Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
      The word written in scripture…[Read more]

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    Ed

    The knowledge does not come from Wakeup. This you fail to understand.

    Hi Journey42,

    Yea I know, a lot of it comes from religious brainwashing.

    ___________
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Kerwin, this one…

    “I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm,
    which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.” (Ezra 7:13)

    ___________
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    Kerwin…….what and how i believe about a freewill is summed up exactly in what L. Ray SMITH has written, it is all laid out very clearly, in a complete presentation, to present all of that material at one time would take ten or more pages here, and i have posted much of what it says here over the years, without secess it seems, so perhaps com…

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    God would not be happy with some of you,
    Wakeup does not hide and keep all his knowledge to himself. By him staying on this site, shows he has patience. You guys have chased many away.

    Wakeup likes to share with his brothers, but wants you to work it out for yourself. He lays the bait to see if any of you will bite, …he’s gently guiding you in…

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    Religion has really gotten you screwed up.

    This is not an answer, this is an attack because you don’t know the answer.
    Guess what Ed. I know the answer. I could even answer this 20 years ago.

    Hi Journey42,

    It most certainly is the answer. ‘Religion’ is where the doctrine of the word being Jesus came from. Did you not know t…[Read more]

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    Ed,
    (1)How can God have an offspring before his son is born?
    (2)God does not give birth, (3)he just creates,
    (4)the son was never a creature, or an offspring before his birth.

    Journey42,

    1) Jesus was God’s offspring – EVEN WHILE IN THE WOMB OF MARY.
    2) No, Mary did.
    3) Jesus is God’s only-begotten Son.
    4) There was no Jesus before his…[Read more]

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    Ed,
    (1)Don’t you find it strange that God said there is no saviour besides himself, ((2)so where does Christ fit?)
    (3)He also said he alone created everything by himself, ((4)so where does Christ fit again? because everything was made through him, for him) (5)Is he invisible? (6)Did God not know he was there?
    (7)Then he says, lets make in our i…

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    Hi Journey42,

    People like me, Gene, and Kerwin, can clearly see this is the cause of much of your so-called-bible-contradictions.
    I know that Gene and myself have told you this many times, but you guys just continue to turn a deaf ear to us.
    Once you understand “The Word” is God rather than God’s Son most of the contradictions will simply…[Read more]

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