Hi T8,

I understand your reluctance to see Jer.18:5 as counter evidence against your claim, I have
seen this pattern before. I will draw a comparative example for you, so you can see my point.
The JW’s will claim that Jesus is Michael the Archangel and then use a verse like 1Thess.4:16.

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. It is clear that Jesus’ death on the cross was planned at least by Genesis 1:15, if not before.

2. And Rev.13:8 suggests Jesus’ death on the cross was planned even before the creation of the world.

3. Therefore it is safe to conclude: it is through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were created by G…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. It is clear that Jesus’ death on the cross was planned at least by Genesis 1:15, if not before.

2. And Rev.13:8 suggests Jesus’ death on the cross was planned even before the creation of the world.

3. Therefore it’s safe to conclude: that it is through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were created by G…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. It is clear that Jesus’ death on the cross was planned at least by Genesis 1:15, if not before.

2. And Rev.13:8 suggests Jesus’ death on the cross was planned even before the creation of the world.

3. Therefore it is safe to conclude: that it is through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were c…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. It is clear that Jesus’ death on the cross was planned at least by Genesis 1:15, if not before.

2. And Rev.13:8 suggests Jesus’ death on the cross was planned even before the creation of the world.

3. Therefore it’s safe to conclude: that it is through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were c…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. It is clear that Jesus’ death on the cross was planned at least by Genesis 1:15, if not before.

2. And Rev.13:8 suggests Jesus’ death on the cross was planned even before the creation of the world.

3. Therefore it’s safe to conclude: It’s through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were c…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1. The verses of: Heb.1:2, Col.1:15-17, and 1Cor.8:6 are not meant as
a secret encoding suggesting Jesus was the first created being.
To imply that is to misunderstand the bible’s message.

2. It was through (as in because of) Jesus’ death
on the cross that all things were created.
Do you agree with my summation?

Hi T8,

1. The verses of: Heb.1:2, Col.1:15-17, and 1Cor.8:6 are not meant as
a secret encoding suggesting Jesus was the first created being.
To imply that is to misunderstand the bible’s message.

2. It was through (as in because of) Jesus’ death
on the cross that all things were created.
(Do you agree with this summation?)

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”
.
What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremiah, and spoke – T8 (yes?)
.
1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi T8,

Then it is correct for me to assume that you agree with points labeled #1 and #2…[Read more]

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”
.
What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremiah, and spoke – T8 (yes?)
.
1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi T8,

Then it is correct for me to assume that you agree with points labeled #1 and #2…[Read more]

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”
.
What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremiah, and spoke – T8 .(yes?)
.
1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi T8,

Then it is correct for me to assume that you agree with points labeled #1 and #2…[Read more]

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”
.
What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremiah, and spoke – T8 .(yes?)
.
1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi T8,

Then it is correct for me to assume that you agree with points labeled #1 and #2…[Read more]

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”

What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremiah, and spoke – T8 .(yes?)

Please excuse me for putting words in your mouth, so let’s instead
break the claim down by looking at the evidence. If what you are saying is
true and correct, then we must conclued the fo…

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1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi Pierre,

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying” (Jer.18:5)

If you believe points labeled #1 and #2,
then the following words apply to you…

What the quoted words of Jeremiah 18:5 REALLY MEAN is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the pro…[Read more]

1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi Pierre,

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”

If you believe points labeled #1 and #2,
then the following words apply to you…

What the quoted words of Jeremiah 18:5 REALLY MEAN is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremia…[Read more]

1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi Pierre,

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying”

If you believe points labeled #1 and #2,
then the following words apply to you…

What the quoted words of terraricca REALLY MEAN is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet Jeremia…[Read more]

1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi Pierre,

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying” (terraricca)

If you believe points labeled #1 and #2,
then the following words apply to you…

What the quoted words of terraricca REALLY MEAN is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the pro…[Read more]

1. Jesus Christ came to Jeremiah the prophet
– and –
2. Jesus Christ spoke to Jeremiah the prophet

Hi Pierre,

Then you believe points labeled #1 and #2, then the following words correctly belong to you right?

“then “The Word” of the LORD came to me, saying” (Jer.18:5)

What this text REALLY MEANS is:
then “Jesus Christ” came to the prophet…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,

Col. 1:12-21 is about Jesus’ preeminence, it is NOT
a secret message that is saying that Jesus was created first.
If you choose to believe differently it does not change my life one bit.

Don’t think I’m trying to change your mind, I’m simply stating the fact of the matter.

_______________
God bless
Ed J

could you show me where I turned left when I should have stayed on line in the truth ?

Hi Pierre,

That happened when you decided to get your authoritative information about God from corrupted sources.

Edj

Mt 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

so what as this to do with me being wrong in Col 1;15-21…

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